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This episode brings Carl Jung and the devil onto the same stage. Ammon Hillman plays a clip where Jung meets a patient who says the sun moves when he turns his head. Jung thinks the man is just sick. But four years later, Jung finds that same vision in an old magic papyrus called the Mithras Liturgy. It had not been printed yet, so no one could have told him. For Hillman, this is the moment Jung fell into the Saturn mystery.
The big text of the night is that Liturgy of Mithras (Μίθρας) from the Greek Magical Papyri. It reads like a recipe for being born again. You breathe in the sun’s rays and feel yourself float up. At dawn you make hissing and popping sounds. The goal is aionic (αἰώνιος) life, a life outside of ordinary time, and the route runs through kufi (κῦφι), a sacred incense. Hillman reads this, in plain words, as an old drug rite for burning off death.
Then the episode turns to Jung’s own magic book, the Red Book. Hillman reads Jung’s incantation, “the god is in the egg,” and then the scene where Jung meets the red rider, the devil, on a castle tower. The two argue about faith, reason, and the hidden mystery. Hillman’s claim is not that Jung invented this. He says Jung rewrote a far older Orphic rite, in the line of the Bacchae, and sealed it away for a set time.
Full Video Transcript
Okay, it’s time to stretch. Tonight, I’m going to bring you a visitation from Carl Jung and a guest appearance of the devil. We’ll be kicking it up a notch on satanic initiation.
I’m delighted to be able to come to this assembly again, this unholy assembly.
It does me great, great pride.
I am going to force upon you the soul of one Carl Jung.
And from Carl Jung, we’re going to make a deeper dive into the actual magic that was guiding Carl Jung and his mystery.
Excuse me for one minute, without further ado. Carl Jung, please.
We had a patient in the ward. He was quiet, but completely dissociated, schizophrenic.
And he was in the clinic already for over 20 years.
He had come into the clinic as a matter of fact, being a young man, a little girl,
There’s no particular education.
And once I came to the war, and he was obviously excited and called to me,
took me by the label of my coat and led me to the window and said,
Now you will see. Now look at it.
Look up at the sun and see how it moves.
You see, you must move your head too like this,
and then you will see the follows of the sun.
and you know that’s the origin of the wind and you see how the sun moves as you move your head
from one side to the other now of course i didn’t understand it at all i thought
there you are he’s just crazy and but that case remained in my mind please tell us the truth then
and where this machination of this lunatic ended up taking you.
And four years later, I came across a paper written by the German historian,
Dietrich, that dealt with the so-called Mithras liturgy,
a part of the great Parisian social papyrus.
And there he produced the part of the so-called Midrash liturgy.
Namely, it says there,
After the second prayer thou wilt see how the disk of the sun unfolds,
and you will see hanging down from it the tube, the origin of the wind.
And when you move thy face, thy face to the regions of the east, it will move there.
And if you move your face to the region of the west, it will follow you.
And just like that, Carl Jung was sucked into Saturnian vision and where they end up.
And instantly I knew, I knew, now this is it.
This is the vision of my patient.
But how could you be sure that your patient wasn’t unconsciously recalling something that somebody had told you?
Oh, no, quite out of question, because that thing was not known.
It was in a magic papyrus in Paris, and it wasn’t even published.
It was only published four years later after I had observed it with my patient.
So Carl Jung is seeing things from the future.
This is fantastic.
um yes a vision through a patient and suddenly the man is hooked he’s drawn into the mysterium
into the initiation and how do we know that because we can extract it from him we can extract
it from Carl Jung he’s bad and he deserves it he deserves what he gets the liber nois the liber
know us the new book that Carl Jung wrote and then had buried until a certain time to be released
which has been released and scrutinized by every sort of critic authority academic you name it
let’s look at it with the eyes of the Bakken if we really were in charge if we were in control if
we were sitting on the throne, for those of you with ears to hear, if we were sitting on the throne
of Satan and we were able to reach into his capacity to bring past, future, and present into
one moment, we would be able to take Jung and magically transform him. I want us to go where
Jung tried to lead. I want us to look at what they call the Liturgy of Mithras. Yeah, the Liturgy
of Mithras. What is that? That doesn’t help. I want to get down to the level. Remember the time
ship? I want to get down to their level and see what’s happening. Okay, so I’m taking you tonight
on this Merry Christmas night. I’m taking you to the place where all of this comes from,
taking you to an actual cult ritual. Now, word has it that the profanation or the making common
of the cult ritual of the Mysterion will cause instant lightning from Zeus upon the Revelation.
If I’m bathed in that lightning, I will know the ion. Let me show you that drugs can make you high
or according to the magical papyri, they can make you cosmic. Let’s look at the ones
that make you cosmic. And again, let’s remain scientific about this. I have no theories for you.
I don’t want your cash. I don’t want to charge you to ask me a question. I don’t want any of that
corruption or pollution. I just want the text. And tonight, I want you to look, as you regaled
with a series of images, I want you to look at Mithras and the liturgy, and I want you to ask
a couple of questions here. I’m going to read to you just the introduction, and I just want you to
follow along in your mind’s eye. Be gracious to me, oh providence and psyche, as I wrote these
mysteries handed down not for gain but for instruction. This is what Jung was referring to.
So when we look at his magic book and I show you how to use it and break the seal,
absorb the seal then don’t be surprised now watch watch this this is gorgeous um yeah he’s invoking
right he’s it’s a prayer yes i don’t write these things for gain he says but for instruction
and for an only child i request i think it’s a bad translation because it’s mono
remember my advisor dr john scarborough was one of the translators in this text in this work
um and we we oftentimes scrutinize translations that ah it’s just so difficult i can see the
difficulty but you know it’s tough it’s tough so so um here we go yeah um not only child but i’d
say one i’d say one child so and for an only child i request immortality that’s what we’re
doing here at the mystery we’re burning off your mortality welcome yes welcome um oh initiates of
this one power i referred to you it’s nice which the great god helios mithras ordered to be revealed
to me by the archangel listen there’s directions in here to a little an assistant what the romans
called an anus yeah what are the instructions furthermore it is necessary for you oh daughter
to take the juices of herbs and spices which will be made known to you at the end of my holy
treatise he’s going to say which drugs it is that she is supposed to produce right now wait a minute
i said it’s he i said it’s he why did i do that for no reason other than i’ve been living in the
society i’ve lived in for the last 2 000 years yeah why can’t this be a she it would make sense
wouldn’t it um it might as we read it you might begin to see all of that stuff that i told you
about the midwife was there for a reason yeah we’re burning off the mortality of the flesh
yes and why are we doing this so that i alone may ascend into heaven as an inquirer and behold
the universe get my cosmic vision going okay so wait a minute where are we i just stepped out
this time ship and into the middle of some kind of rave yeah exactly so this is an operation
historically. This is an operation, and we’re about to get details. We’re going to get an
invocation, and we’re going to get details about what to do. And I want to read you a little bit
of that, because there’s lots of drugs, and there’s lots of seeing things, and there’s lots
of comprehending the universe, yeah, of knowing oneself. And you say, oh, is this another
introspective no no this purports to be something else if we don’t have a new birth this is not
ionic life are you ready let’s keep going first origin this is the invocation right imagine
yourself at the event first origin of my origin first beginning of my beginning spirit of spirit
the spirit of the spirit in me,
in the fire given by God
to my mixture of the mixtures in me.
The first of are we repeating this?
Yeah, right.
This is part of what we’re performing.
Nice.
Oh, a water of water.
The first of the water in me.
There’s a repetitious thing here going on.
We’re not being given directions about what’s happening.
okay earthly material the first in the earthly material in me my complete body i blank and this
is formulaic i insert name here whose mother is blank wait a minute whose mother seriously
is this the patch patrilineal greek stuff that i’ve been surfing under yes it is but it’s not
it’s uh it’s it’s starting to smell like women perhaps the voice in the beginning who is invoking
two female deities in order to save a child maybe that voice is actually female fantastic
does lucifer have a penis yes that’s the question wonderful wonderful wonderful wonderful okay so
I so-and-so whose mother is so-and-so which was formed by a noble arm and an incorruptible right
hand in a world without light and yet radiant without soul and yet alive with soul and then
we have more wokes magikai which don’t let them tell you that they know what they’re from they
don’t um and we know that for a fact because the pgm says that it’s using five different forms
of something that it calls orphic gramata yeah so um in my opinion the best safest guess
will probably be old old old greek yeah yeah yeah eli eli lama sabachthani is not what jesus said
on the cross it’s what jesus said on the cross from the mouth of a magician performing sabachthan
that’s why he’s so thirsty you know okay uh let’s keep going give me over to immortal birth and
following that to my underlying nature so that after the present need which is pressing me
exceedingly i may gaze upon the immortal okay this is what this right is doing it’s giving you
a vision a vision what kind of vision vision of the immortal it’s that other universe he says
that we don’t see right it’s fennec satan’s kingdom right gorgeous beginning with the
immortal spirit with the immortal water with the most steadfast air that I may be born again in
thought and the sacred spirit may breathe in me so that I may wonder at the sacred fire kufi so
you know they’re probably burning kufi right now see there’s stuff going on in the background that
you kind of have to piece together he talks about inhaling it in a second okay so kufi helps give
you that ionic vision i know you don’t believe me but just hang on there for one second one second
here we go i born mortal from mortal womb but transformed by tremendous power and an incorruptible
right hand with the immortal spirit the immortal ion and master of the fiery diadems remember ion
that we talked about and who ion was you know fantastic are you here are you here smelling
chronos are you here because you know chronos is saturn right oh the saturnian verses somebody
asked me about this attorney yes and connection with satan right and the de-rotification
the absorption of that row oh very nice um those saturnian verses are early early early
and uh it’s just a link it’s just a link we’ll talk more about saturn and this person wanted
to know about um this potter yeah this potter wow we you know you get the throne and you have
the plutos from the throne who’s sitting on the throne of satan right now would you be surprised
look let’s just give it up for those who haven’t for those who haven’t been here yet and i’ve been
been to this point let’s just give it up i’ll get get my whip out um let’s just give it up for the
the uh the throne um being the analog of the ancient drug yes the seat of power which is
exercised by the spirit that is in that plan that’s the throne yeah asterion we know that
right we know what asterion is can you find asterion can you be on the throne let me give
you the images that if you are on this throne you’ll be able to see the magic of you we’ve got
to get there it’s we’re in a hurry to get there let’s keep re let’s keep reading um he says we
were with ion right now you know why you need ionic life yes i sanctified through holy consecrations
while there subsists within me holy for a short time my human soul might which i will again
receive after the present bitter and relentless necessity which is pressing down upon me good good
good good good for i yes and the sun i draw uh draw in bro oh now he gets directions draw in
breath from the rays draw up three times as much as you can and what’s going to happen at this
point in the initiation which honestly this is the point everybody comes for right you want that new
birth here it is are you ready you will see yourself being lifted up awesome told you guys
you would fly and ascending to the height so that you scorn to be in midair yeah it must be freaky
it must be freaky to suddenly see yourself in midair oh um where the drugs dr carol newlands
from university of wisconsin madison um is it true that the romans used recreational drugs uh
let’s get you up there you will hear uh nothing either of man or of any other living thing
you won’t hear so you know apparently your attention’s focused on the panic of suddenly
floating up into the air um not in that hour will you see anything of mortals affairs on earth so
you wig out for an hour you’re gone you’re under for an hour but rather you will see all
immortal things okay what are these immortal things that everybody gets to see when they’re
under the influence of your mystery in that day an hour you will see the divine order of the skies
okay the presiding gods rising into heaven and other setting wait a minute wait a minute rising
and setting did i hear dawn oh my goodness i did hear dawn after the kufi i that i may gaze upon
the unfathomable awesome water of the dawn those are those waters of life you want to gaze oh and
by the way they do this at dawn right there’s directions in the formula that nero provides
right we’ve got it through galen there’s directions in there for what you’re supposed to do
in that pre-dawn session so this is right before dawn remember the early christians all met at dawn
why because they’re saturnian because judaism and christianity are saturnian bronze age religions
they are in the most basic elemental way they are satanic judaism and christianity are satanic
let’s keep it going shall we this is beautiful and so we’ve drawn in um so once you put your
right finger on your mouth these are more directions we’re at dawn uh having our moment
right freaking out because now we’re floating yeah and what do we say so once you put your
right finger on your mouth and say silence silence silence symbol of the living incorruptible god
ground me silence and then some wall case magnetize the magic words you know so imagine
okay where are we again we’re at the ceremony it’s rise of dawn and all of a sudden i’m in this
position where i’m entering this ionic life i’ve been drawn up into the air and i’m scared and uh
i’m there for the dawn and now i’m using that force of dawn to ground me to keep me safe yeah
isn’t that cool symbol of the living incorruptible god fantastic okay good good good then make a long
hissing sound next make a popping sound and say more wall case magikai then listen this is what
you see you do you wanted to come along and see what happens in a saturnian initiation i’m showing
what it is right i am profaning this mystery so that you can see what they saw you don’t need to
go out and try to re reassemble the crew right you don’t need to go out and figure out how to
make these substances right you don’t need to go and figure out how she can use them to put
her into a state to cause him to go crazy right you don’t need to you can see what the vision
is for and then we’re going to bring it back to you because you’re thinking young is way beyond
that nope nope you is right in the middle of this okay then you will see the gods looking graciously
upon you and uh oh first they come and they rush at you it’s a scary situation it’s like you have
to you have to adjust your frequency because first everybody wants to kill you then you perform an
action and suddenly everything is normal they look at you as normal why you’re being reborn
you’re being born into an element that you don’t um naturally flow from right this isn’t some kind
of guru rediscovery of god the god within anybody who’s sitting around smoking the air and give it
feeding you that i’m god okay no no what we are looking at is what the subjects of these
experiments went through and what they visualized in the process and the the argument is the mystery
see the mystery is not something stupid or mysterious the mystery is that reaction it is
that vision completely biologic i love it completely organic doesn’t smell like chemicals or
big companies or anything it’s completely it’s like a human it’s like a human programming you
know it’s in there it’s in the genes it’s in the nature okay anyway let’s let’s see immediately
after you’ve said these things the sun disc will be expanded oh here it comes to young the sun’s
look at this when we’re through coming through the initiation this is what we see we see the sun’s
disc expanded hey that’s why they’re all into the solar worship stuff and after you have said the
second prayer where there is silent silence and the accompanying words make a hissing sound twice
and a popping sound twice yeah okay you’re gonna you’re gonna see this it’s not too uncommon
so there’s vocalizations that go along right they call the witches the stay out right the
the streaks is the screech owl there’s noises that go along with this form of uh right yeah
so hissing and popping hissing and popping yeah and immediately you will see what oh you’re gonna
love this many five prong stars coming forth from the disc and filling all the air can you see the
stars yeah yeah love it asterion right this is this is um there’s more about the drugs and uh
there’s much more about levels of initiation things that are seen and there’s more about
how to prepare for this what exactly you have to do and what kind of uh what kind of acts that you
have to perform to get ready and um he tells you he tell or she or he who’s writing it tells us
lick this up so that you may be protected yeah lick this up so that you may be protected
constantly we’re constantly getting hit even the pr even the the um the making of totems that will
protect us during this process you have to have images to help protect you in in this pro process
now the phylacteries require this procedure copy that for the right arm onto the skin of a black
sheep with myrrh ink yeah isn’t that funny he’s putting a song and he shows us what kind of song
it is and long story short it’s homer using the sortase so this is a necromantic this mithraic
liturgy is hearkening back to sortetic necromancy and if you have a problem with that you can just
um saturn yeah something yes okay uh what about jung what about jung i want to bring you i want
to bring you to jung and why is it relevant so jung now who’s given us his little example of the
poor lunatic that gave him a vision that he saw then later explained in this papyrus
in paris that’s this magical papyrus that we just read right he he’s um he’s surfing on that ether
and he comes up with guess what an initiation ceremony surprise surprise right um here’s the
neat thing he writes incantations and i’m going to take you through the incantations now and then
i’m going to introduce you to the devil just briefly i’m going to let him ask a few questions
and then we’re going to dismiss him here we go are you ready here are jung’s incantations
we’ll start with this image christmas has come the god is in the egg okay remember you’re being
initiated congregation of satan listen up christmas has come the god is in the egg i have
prepared a rug for my god an expensive red rug from the land of mourning he shall be surrounded
by the shimmer of magnificence of his eastern land. I am the mother, the simple maiden who gave
birth and did not know how. I am the careful father who protected the maiden. I am the shepherd who
received the message as he guarded his herd at night in the dark fields. I am the holy animal
that stood astonished and cannot grasp the becoming of the God. I am the wise man who came
from the east, suspecting the miracle from afar. And I am the egg that surround and nurtures the
seed of the God in me. The solemn hours lengthen and my humanity is wretched and suffers torment
since I am a giver of birth. Have you figured out the riddle yet? Where, uh, whence do you delight
me oh god he is the eternal emptiness and the eternal fullness nothing resembles him and he
resembles everything eternal darkness and eternal brightness does it sound like finance to you you
should notice why because jung is using that as his model he’s using that as his model eternal
below and eternal above double nature in one simple in the manifold meaning in absurdity
freedom in bondage do you smell the boccas yes you’re going to get to him right you’re going
to come to boccas subjugated when victorious old and youth yes in no oh light of the middle way
enclosed in the egg embryonic full of ardor oppressed fully expectant dreamlike awaiting
lost memories, as heavy as stone, hardened, molten, transparent, streaming light, coiled on itself.
And now my favorite part, which is theft. He knows it. He knows he’s such a thief, a naughty thief.
Amen. You are the Lord of the beginning. Amen. You are the star of the east. Amen. You are the flower
that blooms over everything, you should be getting to see, to see him, her. Amen. You are the deer
that breaks out of the forest. Amen. You are the song that sounds far over the water. Amen. You are
the beginning and the end. One word that was never spoken, one light that was never lit up,
an unparalleled confusion and a road without end. I forgive myself these words as you also forgive
me for the sake of your blessed light. Yes. Rise up, you gracious fire of old night. I kiss the
threshold of your beginning. If you are not tasting the Orphic, if you are not appreciating the fact
that his mystery is a resurrection of antiquity’s Orphic mystery, if you don’t realize that you are
at Eleusis, that you are with the Christ, then you’re not a born again. Dancers await you.
the bachans let’s continue on with an introduction to the devil bring up uh just bring me back to
center because i want people you know it’s my passion to do this for you to bring you the devil
is the thing that you know not many people get the privilege because he’s so you know when the when
the when the experts speak up about the devil when the experts speak up about the devil they usually
do so so condescendingly with such bad information there’s so much about him there’s so much about
the dawn bringer why would you not why would you not bother to dip in i don’t know um but this is
the beginning of the second of uh book the second within the uh the new book written by jung for a
specific time to be released at a specific time this is the red one the door of the mysterium has
closed behind me. I feel that my will is paralyzed and that the spirit of the depths possesses me.
Do you feel possessed by the spirit of the depths? I hope you do. I know nothing about a way. I can
therefore neither want this nor that, since nothing indicates to me whether I want this or that.
I wait without knowing what I’m waiting for, but already in the following night, I felt that I had
reached a solid point. Are you ready? I find that I am standing on the highest tower of a castle.
the air tells me so I am far back in time oh look at this you’re almost traveling in time
my gaze wanders widely over solitary countryside a combination of fields and forests I am wearing
a green garment a horn hangs from my shoulder I am the tower guard I look out into the distance
I see a red point out there it comes near on a winding road disappearing for a while in forests
and reappearing again. It is a horseman in a red coat, the red horseman. He is coming to my castle.
He is already riding through the gate. I hear steps on the stairway. The steps creak. He knocks.
A strange fear comes over me and there stands the red one, a long shape, wholly shrouded in red.
Even his hair is red. That’s fantastic. We could use him in the right then. I think in the end,
he will turn out to be the devil. The devil says, I greet you, man on the high tower. I saw you from
afar watching and waiting. Your waiting has called me. Jung, who are you? Devil, who am I? You think
I am the devil. Do not pass judgment. Perhaps you can talk to me without knowing who I am. What sort
of a superstitious fellow are you that immediately you think you are the devil? Watch, I’m sorry for
What’s about to happen.
I’m going to bring you raw young, and this will hit a nerve.
That’s so deep.
I’ll get 20 comments on this.
This one, this is look, we have to do it.
He deserves it.
You know, he deserves it.
The devil says, uh, so what are you waiting for?
And young says, I wait all kinds of, I await all kinds of things.
And especially I’m waiting for someone of the world’s wealth.
so for some of the world’s wealth excuse me you know and we all knew it it’s disgusting
it’s disgusting it’s not art for art’s sake yeah yeah yeah um which we don’t see here um to come
to me he’s waiting for the wealth which he hasn’t gotten yet devil so i have come to absolutely the
right place which is where you’d expect the devil to be right to the person who needs punishment
I have wandered a long time through the world, seeking those like you who sit upon a high tower
and look out for things unseen. Is that you in the midst of the mystery? Are you in that position?
Yes. The devil is asking you. Jung, you make me curious. You seem to be a rare breed. Your
appearance is not ordinary. And then to forgive me, it seems to me that you bring with you a
strange air. What kind of air are you, punk? Something worldly, something impudent. Yeah,
now he’s talking. I love it. Or exuberant, or in fact, something pagan. It makes me want to go
over there and have another moment. I won’t. I won’t. Something pagan. Can you hear, Jung?
Can you hear, Jung? Okay, good. Devil, you don’t offend me. On the contrary, you hit your nail on
ahead. But I’m no old pagan, as you seem to think. Jung, I don’t want to insist on that. You are not
pompous and Latin enough. I like that. Sometimes Jung is funny. You have nothing classical about
you. You seem to be a son of our time. But as I must remark, a rather unusual one, you’re no real
pagan, but the kind of pagan who runs alongside our Christian religion. Doing that all the time.
You’re truly, the devil says, you’re truly a good diviner of riddles. Oh, you’re doing better than
many others who have totally mistaken me. Good for you. Yeah, good. You sound cool and sneering,
says Jung. Have you never broken your heart over the holiest mysteries of our Christian religion?
Are you ready? We’re about to. Devil, you’re an unbelievably ponderous and serious person.
Are you always so insistent? I love that. I love that. Did you see that in the interview?
he’s there you saw that i would before god always like to be as serious and true to myself as i try
to be blah blah blah young devil you’re superstitious and too german you take literally
what the scriptures say otherwise you could not judge me so hard young a hard judgment
is the last thing i would want but my nose does not play tricks on me you’re evasive
and i don’t want to and you don’t want to reveal yourself what are you hiding the red one grows
redder devil i hide nothing from you you true-hearted soul i simply amuse myself with
your weighty seriousness and your comic veracity this is so rare in our time especially in men
who have understanding at their disposal i believe you cannot fully understand me says
jung you apparently compare me with those whom you know but i must say to you for the sake of
truth that I neither really belong to this time nor to this place. Listen to him. It doesn’t
matter. You’re here, so shut up. Answer my questions, you little fool. A spell has banished
me, says Jung, to this place and time. Nice. I’m really not what you see before you. Devil,
you say astounding things. Who are you then? Jung, this is irrelevant. I stand before you as that
which I presently am. Okay, it’s going to get ugly. Here it comes. Why am I here like this? I
do not know, but I do know that I must be here to justify myself according to my best knowledge.
Is that what you’re saying to yourself? I know just as little who you are and as you know who
I am. Devil, that sounds very strange. Are you something of a saint, hardly a philosopher?
Jung then picks up in a few lines and says, you are ensnared in your own world,
but you might conceive that one can assess the worth of Christianity correctly
without being a downright saint.
He continues, you’re stubborn.
What I mean is that it’s hardly a coincidence that the whole world has become Christian.
I also believe that it was the task of Western man to carry Christ in his heart
and to grow with his suffering, death, and resurrection.
And now the devil says, hold your ears.
Well, there are also Jews who are good people
and yet had no need for your solemn gospels.
And Jung says, you are, it seems to me,
no good reader of the people.
Have you never noticed that the Jew himself lacks something?
One in his head, another in his heart,
and he himself feels that he lacks something.
Now, meet the devil.
Devil, indeed, I’m no Jew,
but I must come to the Jew’s defense.
You seem to be a Jew hater.
Would you like to hear what Jung says when the devil puts him right in the spot where he should
be? He says, well, now you speak like all those Jews who accuse anyone of Jew-hating who does
not have a completely favorable judgment. Do these things sound familiar? Yeah, you’re reading the air
of the time of the Aion. While they themselves make the bloodiest jokes about their own kind,
since the Jews only too clearly feel that particular lack,
and yet they do not want to admit it.
And that’s all I can swallow because he doesn’t know himself.
It’s no wonder that the devil wanders.
What’s happening to Jung?
We’re taking it.
We’re taking it to him for writing a magic book with a seal.
yeah and we together can use the throne of satan to find those places that he calls cosmic
yeah no money just art just reason yeah thank you for coming tonight um we’re going to talk now
we’re going to have rob and i want to talk about a couple of questions that were presented
and hopefully we can keep embedding keep embedding back in the souls of the dead
the satanic the satanic right you might be surprised why that what the devil is doing there
and you might when you get to the south pole realize that you really could be standing on
on the north yeah you might just be disoriented um rob how are you rob just on mute yeah
All right. After that, I’m engrossed, fully engrossed in that. Very, very good. Can you hear me okay? Because I’ve got a new mic.
Yes. No, your mic is lovely. Your mic is lovely. Bravo. Bravo. You’ve got some questions. You’ve got some questions from the gallery. Tell us.
yep we’re going to go from young to known us and we we want to um it’s lady rowan ali rowan
and she wrote quite a bit and i and i don’t want to um kind of paraphrase but i can’t read the
whole the whole chapter out like there’s quite a few paragraphs so i kind of paraphrased and i hope
i’ve got it right but like you get you she’s worried you’re gonna have critics she’s she’s
like concerned is you’re going to have critics regarding knownness and he’s paraphrasing john
and maybe some of that is coming through his dionysiaca as you might be opening up yourself to
some criticism there and uh why would you choose a fifth century paraphrase over all the available
gospels yeah yeah good great question excellent question and there is a little bit more i’m afraid
sorry okay let me answer that first let me ask you that yeah because because could you put the
question up on the screen please edit it possible yeah lovely thank you sorry no sorry what i would
say right off the bat is that what am i doing there i am doing in in nonus uh following the
drugs right so all i’m doing is i am trying to assemble uh the picture of antiquity from the
perspective of the drugs and the drug users so what i would say to her is what nonus does that’s
so important is that he recognizes the sexual value of that drug not just the monetary value
it’s worth so much and that’s why it should have been sold and given to the poor but the fact that
he presents her as she does with the muron that he knows and why does he know that it’s a sexual drug
um it’s the same reason that pope gregory knows that rust on your vagina is chafing from robigo
um the activity of the priestesses in the temple of aphrodite who are performing their acts and
becoming chafed so i’m looking at nonus for the drugs and the drug references and when he presents
it within the context of her for example her sultry hair um the muron starts to take on uh
its native aspect so lady ron this is this is what i mean if you go to diascorides um or you go to
galen or you go to scribonius and you start looking i would advise diascorides and you start
looking at what the muron does and you just put together as a compound what all of its ingredients
are used for and you see that it’s you know used for ever all of its practical purposes in antiquity
whether it be abrasion relieving or abortion inducing um that you look at that and say
mary is carrying this stuff i don’t need an argument i don’t need a conspiracy
you know that lady rowan we’re just going for the evidence that’s why i like you because you look at
the evidence right so look at the drugs and ask yourself what is that muron you know diascortes
you’ve got a great first century source that tells you exactly what that mood on is so when nonus
brings up and one of the reasons i like knows he actually talks about the antidote that was given
to jesus on the cross and um you could also ask why would i use the geoponica of byzantine work on
farming on agriculture because it talks about drugs and antidotes and it says that vinegar
is the con is the name for the antidote to the dipsis just like nonus right so what i’m looking
for and known as is the pharmacology the historians the religious historians the classicists have not
caught up with the sources they have not caught up with the sources so when someone challenges
the easiest way to knock them off their block is just to say hey um have you read diascorides okay
say hey have you seen nero’s magic formula in galen and they’re not going to know any of that
stuff they’re not it’s the big weakness i’ve been there in the business i can tell you what
its weakness is but to me that’s comforting because that’s the avenue that we can take to
take to get the real picture of what’s going on is the drugs right now a lot of people have asked me
they’ve said they’ve said um the drugs what you’re saying is you’re they’re using drugs and religious
right and it always it’s so disturbing to me having read as much as i have from antiquity
not modern takes on it but from antiquity for somebody to step forward and say they were we’re
still questioning did you see what we just read from the greek magical papyri did you see how the
drugs are integrated in the vision so for the head of the department at the university of wisconsin
to step up and say that Romans
just wouldn’t do such a thing,
is complete and total ignorance
of the things that she’s supposed to be guarding.
So Lady Rowan, that’s what I would say.
Could we, do we deserve more detail
on what the precise action of Mary
and what she did with the alabasteron?
Lady Rowan, you still have to argue with people
about the alabaster you still have to argue we have detritus from the last 500 years thanks to
king james and his knuckleheads right which by the way he wrote a great work on demonology
but his translation is just you know just accept that this is the hebrew i just accept it forget
about the fact that of the septuagint and how it says completely different things right so yeah
king james all influenced by when people become influenced by a cause or an orientation or a a
a bias where they want to set out to prove something you know you’re in terrible shape
just go to the sources and that’s what i would say was known as notice is just another way
another support for the fact that they were using these pharmacological items and mary was using
one it’s very popularly used um by devotees of venus um for the sake of sexual health
in temples get over it right that’s the that’s the beautiful thing read the pharmacology people it’s
not yeah it doesn’t have to be as crafty as you think there’s no theories i please the last thing
i’m gonna do to anybody here is ever give you a freaking theory right there’s there’s no there’s
no theories or like armpits every academic has them and um only under certain circumstances
would you ever want to smell them yeah uh another question rob yeah that’s a great answer that is um
with you mentioning the king james let’s want to go back a little bit further and the early gospels
and considering his knownness is in fifth century then do you think it’s possible with all the
additions and all the editing that’s gone on in the gospels that known as could see through that
could see through the disguise if there’s a disguise could he could he see through that
and penetrate with his language so he could leave it within a text potentially yeah that’s a good
question that’s a good question what i would do is i would say okay let’s be careful here
were investigators and let’s look at the language is nonus picking up on cult use of language and
that’s not odd um does galen use technical uh language technical vocabulary for his medicine
hell yeah did he get it um does he develop it through hellenistic doctors like herophilus yeah
oh yeah he does can you track that language yes you can do the same thing with nonus he’s using
he’s using highly highly highly technical terms right just like galen galen’s bit from nero
right when nero’s physician when when he uses the word polypharmacon we don’t have to guess
we don’t have to piece this together all we have to do is look at the language and say what is
that language preserving in the amber right it’s like the amber that’s preserving that that b from
200 or 20 million years ago i was a little bit off a factor of 10. yeah i don’t know if that
answered your question but i feel good about it good yeah what else do we have yeah we’re going
to shift across now to um i’m struggling with the with the pronunciation and even looked it up
is it diaz or diaz in regards saturnalia oh this part here yeah this yeah this part there
yeah it’s it’s a good exact is that a good example of the gender trinity yeah let’s
yeah let’s talk about god let’s talk about god yeah who is the dispater right is that
plutos is that pluton excuse me is that the uh wealth is that the king who sits on that throne
and um in the underworld is that the guy who abducted persephone is that zeus yes people don’t
get this right away but um you do if you study roman religion especially and you see the evolution
of the god concept you know it’s deus right in latin and latin from devas from uh in uh uh
mycenaean it’s got that digamma in the upsilon or in the u in latin right you know is it originally
you were v right anyway um so uh deus dispater yeah is that saturn and kronos yeah is that zeus
the one that we think of that rules olympus the one that rules the ether yes that is the zeus
right that is the zeus well that dispater is just a zeus of the kthon which is that it’s like a
different dimension underworld trans just translated as underworld right but it still
has this worldly connotation it’s like the underworld rules this place you don’t realize
that right but the underworld rules this place would you be surprised to wake up and find
that there was a separation of powers and that there was one power that ruled this ether and
the other power that ruled okay well that’s what they’re looking at that’s the that’s the way that
they’re viewing the world and all of this can be made visible to you if you can sit on the throne
of satan while you use these images while you search these images okay it unlocks its part
we’re not supposed to tell it but it works um yeah yeah i don’t know any any other questions i think
well is that bad enough yeah that’s uh that’s okay with me but what i’d like to do is talk about
contacting you for people who like to contact i mean we have so many brilliant comments i love
the comments i love going through them and i just think they’re fantastic what people are putting in
and where we’re at is we kind of i’d like to communicate i’d like to communicate with people
and have people be able to communicate with each other because youtube you’ve got it’s it’s limited
you can’t even copy and paste unless that’s just me maybe it is but i’d appreciate some suggestions
i’d like to suggest maybe a dedicated discord there is a discord i think it’s fantastic i’m
on the discord myself i think it’s brilliant i like being on there a lot of people on there
it’s fantastic but i don’t know if people are comfortable joining the discord but definitely
i’m not comfortable putting any sort of details on the on the youtube comments i want to encourage
anybody else to so we’ve got a problem with how do we get in touch with each other and i’m trying
to solve that i’d appreciate some suggestions maybe some platform we could all join together
and discuss things with each other i mean that’s that’s the discord essentially but why aren’t
people all joined and and maybe there’s a reason for that and what i’d like is to solve that in
the meantime would you be okay and comfortable passing on messages through your email at the
at the lady about babylon website yes at the lady babylon website maybe if you want to get
talking and i promise everybody uh that sends me something i’ll be more diligent um uh i’ll
be as diligent as i can i can i’m up against um teaching and getting people and this is the fun
thing getting people to actually be able to uh translate with me and to be able to look at a text
and say oh my god i just translated that those moments you know it takes a while to get there
it takes a lot of commitment and some students have it and some students don’t right so um i’m
i’m encouraging people uh who want to to learn ancient greek um to consider taking up the cause
it depends if it would be uh useful to you but what i can promise you is that when i give you
that ability and you have it where you’re sharp enough you can go on to intermediate reading
uh you know um uh then uh you’ll be able to see how how that important it actually is um i had a
new student today who came in and he was looking at logos just the word logos and he uh is a
religious um not historian but uh an ac he had he has an undergraduate degree in religious history
and he was surprised um orgasmically surprised genuinely surprised at just the word logos
and what it actually means and i can promise you from experience that those of you sitting here
do not know what logos means we could sit we could go into a discord and i say okay offer me your
definitions of logos and then i could take you and i could show you and you’d be shocked but it’s
rational and it makes sense and it allows you to see how that logos was used that when john says
in archa and her logos um that you know not from a baptist perspective not from a catholic’s
perspective um not from a scholar’s perspective but from the perspective of the people who
actually wrote the document that’s invaluable that’s invaluable that’s the only way you’re
getting evidence if we’re ever going to solve the crime of of the naked boy with jesus we need that
we need hardcore evidence and um i appreciate everybody who’s who’s everybody who’s been saying
nice job keep it up you people are encouraging me so i need that and i need to know that you’re
out there and that you’re following and that in following you’re opened up like people are saying
and you’re seeing oh my god you know what is this right and now you’re asking questions because
that’s what that’s what it’s all about and and uh you know our eyes are open our eyes are open
as as much as we want to fear i love that we we’ve got you know we’ve got lord snappy and he
shaved his head and we’ve got a testimonial uh we i just thank you everybody for taking part
participating commenting it’s just it’s great to see it unfold i really enjoy watching this unfold
i mean i i love the research that’s mine but i love watching this unfold and on behalf i’m
sorry for interrupting rob on behalf of lord snappy who i was talking about earlier he um
I very much must point out that in this death mourning that we’re entering, in this period of mourning Adonis, of mourning Jehovah, we’re not just mourning Jehovah, we’re mourning his son and his son’s bride.
because our vision will show us what contradicts the fairy tale reality that we’ve all grown up in.
It’s gorgeous.
Saturnian, satanic, Judaism, Christianity.
Yes, what are the satanic origins of Judaism and Christianity?
and don’t tell me because your guy throws around snakes and and can do what the egyptians do
with their he got don’t tell me that he is not a magician completely following saturnian look
he even sets up an oracle this is one good thing moses sets up an oracle most people you just tell
them that it’s gonna they’re gonna be confused right moses sets up an oracle yeah in the
wilderness in a tent with a bunch of smoking botanicals and you go in there to what so that
you can talk to the god they call it in the septuagint the telestarian that’s the tent it’s
the place that’s erected for you to meet the god face to face um this is gorgeous i hope that
someday people find out that judaism is indeed a bronze age satanic religion and that that’s
nothing to be ashamed of. Their roots go back not to the Hebrew and not to the Masoretic
tradition. That’s way late. They go back to the Saturnian oracular cult that allows us to enter
into a place of vision. Yeah, yeah. Maybe that was Moses we were working with tonight in Jung.
i’ll put jung back in his cage rob do you have any final points yeah that was my last question
are you keeping young there don’t let him go don’t let him go he always stays with me he always stays
with me and we will we will work on his seal and presenting it directly to everyone so that jung
like a meat puppet can be used to talk to everyone here it’s a necromancer’s
prerogative yes until next time hail satan and thank you thank you everybody
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