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This is a response episode. It plays a MythVision livestream in which Derek Lambert and the historian Dr. Richard Carrier talk about Ammon Hillman, and he answers the video live as it rolls. The idea he pushes back on hardest is the one floated in the clip: that maybe he is only a performative satirist, an entertainer saying wild things rather than a scholar making real claims. His answer is flat. What he does, he says, is translate. He is not selling ideas or jokes; he is reading ancient texts and reporting what they say.
The one concrete language point the critics raise gets answered in detail. Steven Nelson and Dr. Carrier repeat a moment where Dr. Carl Ruck corrected the word for the young man in the gospel, so the episode digs into it. The word read out loud is neaniskos (νεανίσκος), which is a diminutive, not a plain young man: it sits at the low end of the word’s range, somewhere around nine to fourteen years old. Because it is a small, polite point, Hillman says he did not interrupt Dr. Ruck during the presentation to correct him, but he reads the form that way. He invites Dr. Carrier to come on Danny Jones’ show and translate the same Greek live.
The argument behind the argument is the method. For anything about antiquity there are only two sources, the archaeology and the literature, and the literature comes only through the language, so someone who reads English translations is working secondhand. He contrasts that with his critics’ courses and books for sale, ties their insults and paywalls to greed, and calls the refusal to debate a sign they cannot do the Greek itself. The hour ends with a tease for what is coming next, a two-night deep dive into the eunuch.
Full Video Transcript
It’s Handsome Devil, not Handsome Jesus.
Welcome back to Lady Babylon.
The professorial outfit tonight.
Do you see this, people?
He says, I got dressed up for you.
Do you understand?
I knew that you wanted some, so I dressed up nice.
And this is what I’m going to do, people.
We have such a feast of soul tonight that that’s all we’re going to do.
We’re just going to have fun with that, and we’re going to people, look, I told you, what am I doing?
What is my purpose?
Who’s public service, they told me, quantum headquarters, public service.
What are we trying to do?
We’re trying to keep those psychologically childlike people out of the back alley.
do you understand we’re doing a public service here almond that’s what he said it was some
demon administrator oh god a little more light thank you everyone must see me in my glory
fantastic fantastic satanic congregation it’s good to be here tonight it’s good to be here
all we’re gonna do is watch video now i know i always bring you something nice i know you did
you expected this right you knew I was going to bring you something lovely didn’t you you know
you love it don’t you say yes right Ashley it’s okay if you’re late it’s okay if you’re late
because you know we’re usually late so this is early for us I taught every day at the university
I’m telling you, two minutes past the hour.
I would be so mad.
Anyway, look, the special thing that I brought for you tonight
is your complete and total identification with me,
satanic congregation.
Right?
Your complete and total identification with me.
Listen, Grandma, put down your chicken.
You’re with me tonight.
And what happened, Grandma?
they called you a pervert. They called you a pervert, Grandma. They did. They did, people.
Satanic congregation, I want you to see the heat, the heat that you would take just for watching
this program, just for watching this, the heat that you would take. Oh, it’s fantastic. It’s
fantastic satanic congregation who’s who wants to see tonight who you are i’m gonna show you
i’m gonna show you i’m gonna do it through a couple of people from the brothel yes we have
the head madam tonight we have the head madam along with a new contender who just oh oh god
I don’t know what to say, Chewy. I don’t know what to say, Chewy. Where do we get? Dr. Carrier. Oh, fantastic. That’s good. I like that. That’s a nice kind of mellow type deal. Hello, everybody. Yes, people. We get to eat soul in real time. Isn’t this nummy num num? Are you ready? You perverts. I shouldn’t have given it away.
But that’s what they’re calling you, right?
That’s what they’re calling you.
Satanic congregation.
These are big.
Now look, I had someone tell me just today,
you should sue the shit out of those people.
No, no, people.
That’s not what this is about.
This is Mr. Rogers from hell.
I am here to do a public service for you.
i am showing you the back alley god people pay attention because you don’t want to end up back
here right but that’s what i’m here for don’t worry don’t be afraid don’t be afraid right you
know some people out there what are you talking about alan i don’t need your oh god they just
power forward right like iron danny jones i’m gonna say something about iron danny jones not
about him just like it’s some kind of you know you know bullshit no iron danny iron danny would
be happy, right? To host, to host a match between myself and Dr. Carrier, which I am completely
down for. If, if you got to translate Greek for everyone, Dr. Carrier, your expertise is from 100
to 300, I don’t know, tell me, and you’re doing science and tech, and you know what?
You’re right in my backyard. You’re talking to the guy who actually reads the sources
that you go thumb through, historian, and look at the English translations.
Paper, let me tell you how this works. Let me tell you how this works. I got to turn people on.
Good lamouse bouche. Right, or whatever. Please, some great French cook, tell me, am I using this properly? Where are the salons? France, people, people from France, can you hear me? Where’s the salon? Where is it? It’s on YouTube, Martha, can you believe that? It’s on YouTube.
Oh, how does this work, people? Dr. Carrier, do we have an image that we can remember?
Thank you. Thank you, Chewy, for your representations. Fantastic. Dr. Carrier is
an historian, okay? His period is a period where he’s going to have to find evidence. And where
is it you find evidence? For any of these things that any of us are talking about,
There’s only two sources. Number one, the archaeology. Number two, the literature. Do you
know where they send historians who are studying to get their PhDs in history, Greek history,
Roman history? Do you know where they send them to learn their language? They send them to me.
I can tell you exactly where he is and what his level will be.
I can tell you where his science history of is.
Oh, God, what are you saying?
Surely, these people will come to realize the primacy of Mother Greek.
Will they ever learn, Chewie?
No, Chewie says no, grr, right?
No, absolutely not, never.
And that’s why we must bring him.
Now, people, tonight I’m not going to be giving you sources.
I know, people.
You’re like, what’s wrong with this?
Something, don’t panic.
Don’t panic.
I want you to know, my beloved congregation, please understand.
I have got something textually for you that is so naughty coming up Friday.
so naughty that you will. Let me just give you a hint. What would happen if I were to summon
every reference to every eunuch from antiquity? What if I were to be able to master the domain
of the eunuch? What if I were able to master it? Would you want to hear about it? Would you want
to see what is so blessed about the eunuchs why are they blessed for the kingdom of heaven’s sake
jesus tell us would you everybody like to see would you like to see it from all angles these
eunuchs we’re going to look at them from all angles all angles fantastic so that’s coming friday
eunuch friday fantastic what’s smart alec i can’t i don’t wear glasses on rich rich okay good job
rich that was quite that was full of humor people look rich doesn’t do this for money rich you’re
doing this for money you’re getting paid am i doing it for money nope am i getting paid rich
no rich is not paying me nobody’s paying you people can say whatever you want who’s this
child somebody talking about the antichrist oh my god you people savage i love it right
the eunuchs blessed are the eunuchs for the king of heaven now you sound like a modest
now you sound like a modest and for those of you don’t realize jesus himself is the one that i am
quoting who said blessed are those who were eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven
Do you want to get in, Timmy?
Do you want to get in?
Now, what are we going to do tonight that’s so different?
I want us to watch a video that came out today.
It’s a video that came out today.
And I just want people to see, because every word out of the mouth of these two
is so outrageously, gorgeously, succulently empty.
it was a disappointment even to the audience you know who i’m talking to tonight make me big
but let’s wait to bring that up until we got a reason for him to be upset okay people do you
know what’s happening we walked in congregation and look we showed the world that bart ehrman
can’t translate creek you understand those are his sources how the hell does he know about the
Bible without that stuff. He doesn’t. Do you understand what we’ve done? So they are desperate.
And what do you do when you’re desperate? You do something stupid. You make a strategic error.
How’s that, Armin? You do this. Go ahead, Sherry. Let’s roll it. Now, I’m going to,
people, we’re just going to enjoy this cake tonight, and I want your feedback. They can
hear me right i want your feedback okay so let’s start it off go ahead joey oh yes mark actually
did describe jesus having a little nine-year-old boy ladies and gentlemen there is a greek expert
philologist alman hillman he was on danny jones he’s on some big podcast okay just even before
we get started even before we get started kids are you ready and i’m talking with psychological
kids in the audience you may be 87 and still be a psychological kid by the way shout out to the
people in the emergency room or the surgical suites the people who are talking wherever you
are man wherever you are bring it in what are you looking at in the setup here people look
should we take it down give them a still give the satanic congregation a still people is there
anything you feel about this room? Joey, you got to watch their comments because they’re going to
catch these things. Is there anything, is there a feeling somewhere of what is going on? Look at
the, it’s a balance, right? It’s a balance. Is that a book? Is that a, yes, it’s a book on one
side, right? Is that thing for sale? Is that thing for sale? Did you know in order to talk to this
guy on the right, you have to let him hawk his books contractually and you got to pay him per
hour. Did you know that? Did you know that? Isn’t that funny? It looks like they’ve got it all set
up here. Now, in all honesty, right up front, I’m going to tell you this because I have to
disclose something. I really have to disclose something. Make me big sure so they can see me
disclose, people. The guy on the left, Derek Lambert from MythVision, asked me to put together
a course for him. He said it was easy money. But you know me, I’m not a sellout. And when I saw
the quality of his people, I spent a couple of days laughing, researching the quality of the
dudes who went through, and to be honest, I thought Bart Ehrman was more capable, to be honest,
right? So, it’s not that we’re all immune to the back alley. We have to realize, did you see that?
Oh, look, they almost got an almond to walk back there, right? Fantastic. I want you to notice
right away, I think they may sell alcohol, too. Is that a, what is that? Can you get a bottle of
whatever that is with the book is it in the package deal right i don’t know people jerry put
up their comments if the congregation is observant and wants to say something go ahead and put it up
fantastic hit us with some more hit us oh it’s hard to switch back and forth oh chewy’s like
listen break there’s only so much i can do right okay fine just switch go ahead start it cast and
i give a background knowledge here gave a phone call to danny jones because i said hey man you
were on joe rogan and he kind of implied that no one will touch this guy with a thousand foot
maybe implying he’s invincible and right and they all know it right which just feeds the rot
in people’s brains that are looking for insanity i honestly think it just helps feed that kind of
stop the rot in people’s brains that feeds insanity you know whose brains those are he’s
talking about? He’s talking about your satanic congregation. And by the way, I would like to
invite MythVision’s congregation to come and see tonight what your master is doing. Just let’s
watch together. Just watch. Reason. I don’t have any ideas. I don’t want you to go home with any
ideas ideas are what you write books with and those sell and those give us the goblins disease
of greed the goblins disease of greed right people what was the whole satanic contract about
by the way somebody’s honing in on some of those sources in the middle ages i love it keep keep
at it dudes they’re out there right what is the devil’s contract well it has a clause in it you
know it’s the whole exchange and you get this and this is what you get give me in return right
and it’s got clauses look it up people it’s got clauses one of them is greed once you go for the
greed once that’s your motive that’s it right that’s it whole thing dissolved and you owe one
soul. Straight
to Tartarus. Welcome
class. Have a seat.
Have a seat. Are you ready? Give me the
next take.
Conspiracy mind? Yeah. But either way,
it fit their audience.
The narrative that I think
Amon Hillman himself is pushing is that no one
will debate him. This is relevant.
We’ll bring this up in a moment. I told
Danny, I got someone who will debate him.
Ladies and gentlemen, if this is your first time watching
Dr. Richard Carrier, we’ll
debate him. Obviously,
You know Hellman didn’t want to do it. So point blank period. Yeah, I won’t debate you
He only looks to debate Westhoff apologist. Okay
Let us set the record straight
Danny asked me Richard Carrier. I looked him up. This is not dude
He’s not a classicist
Get a fucking classicist out here
Somebody who actually reads Greek not people who say they do but people who actually do it
right that’s was my approach and that’s it however however people if richard carrier knows
that there are only two sources two wells that he can dive into in order to tell you anything
about antiquity particularly about that which happened between 100 bc and 300
I don’t know, Domini. He knows that those sources come to us through the language.
He knows that much, and he’s watched classicists. He may have taken a course from a classicist.
He may have had a semester or two, and then he may have jumped off on his own
and attempted to acquire what is impossible to acquire. People, do you know how long I spent?
12 years studying from bachelor’s to phd 12 years do you know how much of that time i was reading
greek okay think about that for a minute so when you’re talking about evidence from antiquity
you have to be talking about that language richard carrier knows he cannot come on live
and translate live for you. He knows he can’t do that. So I highly doubt. He’s been invited.
The invitation has been extended and I will come. Thanks to tonight. Thanks to your video.
I think it’s a perfect way to show the world exactly what you cannot do. I’m going to teach
you, carrier. I’m going to teach you. Fine. Fine. Do it. Let’s do it, Chewy. Let’s keep going.
Now, let’s see what brilliant intellectual, academic, philosophical arguments they may have come up with.
Go ahead, Joey.
Let’s see if these chaps are crazy.
Go, or if they’re, you know, let’s see.
Do they have something really to contribute?
Let’s see.
But he’s such an expert.
So I have a question from Steven Nelson from Cross Bible.
My buddy Steven, as you know, is huge in the Greek, loves the Greek.
And I love that he loves it super knowledgeable to like he knows his stuff great resource
He’s very careful and takes his time. Yeah, really looking at the detail
Yeah
So it really shows the difference between someone who has a proper critical mindset about like if you’re gonna quote-unquote do your own research
If you have a good methodology about that like how you’re supposed to like try to prove yourself wrong and like, you know
Test hypotheses, etc. Okay. So do you feel the slight tug on?
on your anus. Do you feel it? As if somebody were symbolically putting something there in a place
that they have no business. No business. Your intellectual anus is your own, people. Do you
understand? It’s been that way throughout history. I don’t care how oppressed you were, because
everybody’s oppressed at different levels, right? Some people have to go to jail. Some people,
you know fired some people whatever right something is there pushing down vent let’s
release it are you ready go ahead give me the next then you get a good result but a lot of people who
quote unquote do their own research don’t do it correctly and so they come up with you know that’s
how it becomes a a joke like oh doing your own research right like people make fun of that but
there are people who like do it methodologically correctly they have the right sort of self-critical
point of view to make sure they’re right okay people methodological research do you know what
a philologist methodological research is to read all the greek to read a shit ton of greek to be
reading greek all the time do you understand that how are you gonna know about these texts
if you don’t read them.
And that’s the big secret.
None of these people actually read them.
Carrier doesn’t.
Carrier doesn’t.
I knew history PhDs, dude.
I knew them.
I knew Greek history PhDs.
I knew a professor of Greek history
at the University of Wisconsin
that all of us graduate students in the department
would make fun of
because he couldn’t access those original texts.
dude was translating English, brah. English to English in his brain. You know what that is?
That’s a circle jerk. And all the graduate students recognized it. Do you understand
what you’re doing? Dr. Carrier, all you got to do is come read some Greek with me. How’s that?
Won’t that be nice? Just put it all out there. That’s your source. Then let’s go ahead and put
it out there let’s see what he does oh god because people i’m telling you i’m telling you let me just
warn you one more time it’s all i can speak from is my own experience in 35 years 35 years has
taught me that you can grab very very difficult or esoteric ancient greek texts you can throw
in somebody’s face who’s been studying the shit for at least 35 years and do you know what they’ll
do they’ll be like oh shit uh give me a little bit give me a little bit this is tough um we can
do that with anyone i’ve got a text that i can give anyone to cause them to be able not to be
able to translate do you understand i don’t care if the dude is from oxford right i don’t care
doesn’t matter they know those texts are out there too right that’s a respect that you gain
for the language after a long time of studying it historians don’t do that historians write books
that they’re able to sell we call these ladies and gentlemen secondary sources and do you know
what they are worth? They are worth nothing. Because you see, what a secondary source says
doesn’t change the Bible at all. It doesn’t change Galen at all. Oh, God. You want to see what
happens? Okay. All right. Let’s hear more. What else? What else? Let’s see. What kind of
intellectual argument do you think they’re going to bring people to Florida? Should we try to get
some people’s comments in here all right etc um and nelson’s one of those who does that really
well and so like that’s how you end up being good at it uh you know on your own without like going
through a whole phd program right and i’ll tell you background when me and nelson we did a five
hour uh video we had the conclusion in our minds that he is incompetent talking about ahman helman
that because there’s stuff that’s so blundered it’s so clearly not the case if you’re looking
at the greek lexicons if you look it’s just like what yeah and if the people viewing right now
don’t like if they don’t already know uh i’ve written a whole takedown of that okay okay so
obviously looking at the lexicons it’s lexica looking at the plural looking at the lexicons
and it’s just so so obviously wrong didn’t somebody in the comments look in his comments
Can you put those on the screen? Look at the comments, people. Somebody nailed them on this
one. Go to the top comments. Is that top? Yeah. Look at number one, people. What a massive waste
of time. Hey, MythVision fans, right? Exactly. Exactly. You get it too. Why? Because you’ve got
brains. They start off saying Dr. Hillman is easily disproven. Then instead of proving Hillman
wrong they spend 15 minutes talking about a random comment somebody makes in the comment section
never once do these two gentlemen address any of the issues a simpleton like myself oh come on man
i’m sure you’re not a symbol like myself have with what dr hillman says they do spend a lot of time
mischaracterizing and insulting his character i want someone to prove him wrong about some of the
most disturbing stuff he says. But as of yet, no one has done so, right? People, character critiques,
empty conversation will only galvanize Dr. Hillman’s base. People, don’t ever tell me
that you are my base. Don’t ever tell me that you’re my base, okay? You’re independent human
beings who do and say and thank exactly what the hell you want. You don’t need to be somebody’s
base. That’s a cult, right? Once your mind goes modest, it doesn’t snap out of it, people. I’m
telling you. The cult projection is still there. Chewy hit me with more. Oh, is this right?
Fantastic. Chewy, by the way, will be implicated in a minute. And you too, Satanic congregation,
we’re just waiting let’s see what mr lambert thanks of you right remember so many days like
sell them sell them right and i really value this person’s opinion right i do people people
they show themselves for exactly what they are there’s another comment there’s another really
good comment i think myth vision oh god don’t chewy let me explain that later what are you
doing people right what are you doing how old are you right no people that was not she knows
exactly where that term comes from historically so don’t think don’t be fooled now are you ready
for some finger no there’s more there’s more wait what was the one with the little greek flag i love
that that’s a good one people look at this is this particular response that dr carrier has against
almond behind a paywall? I hope it’s not because if it is, it won’t give almond a fair chance to
give a response because we know that he will not pay. That’s right. Why will I not pay? Is that
land? Ian. Ian. It’s exactly right. Why will I not pay, Ian? Because Ian knows that Dr. Hillman
is dirt poor. Do you understand? He’s dirt poor, right? I can’t afford to pay for a comment. What
are you talking about, people? That’s why I’m not going to make you pay for a comment.
Do you understand the Christ and Antichrist? There has to be a connection. There has to be,
you know, how do I explain it? How do I explain it? There is something good. One of those great
philosophers i forget which one because i hated philosophy a lot but what and you know and it’s
funny because the classes the philosophers would be sitting there these are graduate students of
philosophy and i’m a graduate student in classics and they would be sitting there reading plato
blah blah hoo-ha and i would just be bored off my ass and oh god the arguments across the table
would go right so much sophistry which exactly like what you’re about to hear right so much
sophistry and then every once in a while maybe two or three times a class maybe no maybe it’s
not that much a couple times well maybe it was two or three somewhere in that range they would
ask me because they knew i was the token classicist what does it say in the greek and they never got
the fact that they were making a leap. They were making a leap, right? They respected it,
but in their reason, did they really understand that it was only what was in the evidence that
was important? It wasn’t your ideas. Now, what’s about to happen? Mithfish and Dr. Carrier, who
was one of his you know one of his ladies they put together these courses and there’s oh god
oh god people let’s just play it let’s just play it go ahead nice pics tonight people if you love
the pics from chewy give her a round of applause bring it up show me so you can find it on my blog
you just search his name what’s it titled imagine being able to build an app with your name on it
oh god i forgot i forgot who you’re with people hey let’s say can you exercise the greed for one
minute okay there we go here they’re back loving it sure you want them i don’t know you can bleep
out this spot you might have to you gotta bleep out this spot and i have and no i have to point
this out this i actually had that worry when i wrote the article right it was like is this gonna
i create some sort of algorithmic punishment because i’m using words that are bad right
uh and and i’m realizing like he’s the is forcing me to do this because these are the words
he’s using and like he’s wait wait a minute wait a minute did anybody catch that he said this
which i think he’s referring to me and then he said he’s forcing me to do this oh my god
satanic congregation i just want you to suck on that for a little bit okay that idea that idea
i just that image that image he is sitting there saying things that i am putting there for him to
say because i am nemesis how do i do this from a distance how do i do it how people would you like
to see i’m serious people feast on it feast on it right it’s coming it’s coming right everybody’s
there to people moaning and groaning do i sense moaning right who is that chewy that’s nemesis
that’s nemesis people who is nemesis if you don’t understand nemesis is satanic congregation you
know nemesis intimately intimately oh god you people would be so welcome in the fifth century
oh god all right let’s do this right let’s get our brains at the peak of that creek
no i’m just kidding let’s go back to see what these two say give us some more chewy forcing
us to talk about this stuff and it’s the kind of stuff that’s going to get like censored or
algorithm or whatever and so like people get like demonetized talking about it because he’s not
supposed to talk about this stuff uh which i find really annoying because it makes it difficult to
to talk about it but anyway so i just roll i just i just lean totally into that and uh let’s see if
i get you know i’m just going around titles alone were three here’s the title uh first september
2025 blog article amman hillman is not telling you the truth the gospels do not describe and
no one was getting high on yeah that’s a hell of a title for you so steven do you hear the laughing
that’s the third cackling the invisible cackling in the background they’re going to mention that
person a minute riots realize you people who belong to this you people who support this
you people who pay for this brothelry i’m talking to you i’m talking to that audience
look at satanic congregation look at the way they act in comparison with you do you understand
your values are values of greed and we are all here from the satanic congregation to remind you
that your greed stains your souls with the stench of ruin who can come along who can come along and
expose the reality who can come along and do that satanic congregation we can come along and do that
right we can come along fantastic give us some more of the genius go for it steven and i have
seen some crazy antagonism in that five hour giving background to people steven has all sorts
of videos go subscribe across bible check out crossbible.com shameless plug for my friend here
But his question is, one of Amon Hillman’s staunch defenders, apologist, in another way of putting it, argues that he, Amon, operates, oh no, sorry, that the defender of Amon operates as a performative satirist, satirist.
wait are we okay um people congregation both what did he just say there were some missteps and some
some vague i think it was somebody coming forth with some kind of accusation something i don’t
know somebody coming forth with something what does this have to do with jesus and the naked
kid in the public park absolutely nothing because that’s what you do when you are on the run
you present your back, and your back is not a fighter. Do you understand? My goodness. My
goodness. What a, what a, Joey, can you believe it? People, they put it out themselves. I could
have, I could have perfectly produced this for them, but I would not have changed any of the
dialogue. I would not. This is glorious. It shows you what things are all about, where your standards
are educational people public service this is an educational public service are you ready keep going
hey sure it’s wait it might be almond it might be almond we need to get clear on this
that was the argument yeah one of almond hillman’s staunch defenders argues that he operates as a
performative satirist so i think it is all right keep going and that this okay no don’t keep going
don’t keep going people did you swallow that did you swallow that right they had the finger in
before you even realized it one of my staunch supporters said what one of my
don’t sorry one of my staunch supporters said what the what I do is satire well
that’s that staunch supporter would be full of shite what I do is translate
what I do is translate do you understand that now what you’re not seeing is
what’s going on behind the scenes you’re about to see it uncovered a little bit
but I was played recordings of the attorney who’s working for these people
right oh my god why did somebody do that who would do that
who would do that talk about lawsuits you you you guys are gonna sue each
other pretty soon it’s hilarious it’s hilarious people fantastic free speech how’s it feel now
people truth to power let’s speak a little truth to this power go ahead hit it role grants him
amen artistic license to reinterpret text freely without adhering to traditional standards of
academic accountability what’s your take on that does labeling hillman’s content as satire
altered the standards of scholarly responsibility okay now look look at cackling jack jester
do you see what he’s doing he has completely changed the topic and the discussion anything
he’s completely changed it they’re not going to talk about that now they’re going to talk about
the strange idea that somebody who’s a fan would have a put out there people everybody recognizes
that this is the act of clowns they’re trying to distract you there’s no evidence here they’re
going to talk about i’m sorry people they can’t they’re incapable so instead they’re going to
give you a show. They’re going to give you a show. People, this is about money. This is about
money. The one episode we have taken down from Lady Babylon was a request from one of the
brothelians. We’ll reveal it in a minute, who asked me, please take it down because it’s about
us and greed. Oh, God. People, people, your greed stains your soul. Did I say we’re part of the
nemesis division. Did I not fucking say that to you? This is serious stuff, people. This is serious
stuff. When you mess with the muse, her dragon is going to burn you. All you’ve got to do, Dr.
Carrier, is come and translate Greek with me. We will look at what a Christ is. We’ll look at what
eternal life means. We’ll look at all those basic things that are all over the New Testament.
that’s all are you ready don’t be afraid don’t be afraid right you opened up I turned down your
offer because I knew you weren’t in the wrong league people I’m telling you if I took you on
a date my beloved if I took you on a date to a karate match do you think I would knowing that
i have never had an ounce of karate in my life except for maybe some old movies from the 70s
that i watched do you understand why did i stop watching movies after the 70s oh god people it’s
not true give me give me do you understand what i’m saying what’s going on here and hello right
now people notice that the congregation of the myth vision know that and they’re writing in
comments betraying you know this is a betrayal what are you doing let’s see what else they come
up with now people they’re going to talk about this stupid idea for a while just maybe skip it
well no we need the details go ahead uh that’s that’s such a weird defense because it’s basically
admitting i’m right like you’re basically saying oh yeah it’s all bullshit none of it is true
uh and but it’s okay that he can say all these false things because it’s a joke right and so
you can say that like i mean i guess like that but that’s not you’re no longer talking about
academic is you’re not talking about academic standards anymore right you’re talking about
oh well he’s not even doing academic he’s a joke yeah like he’s telling jokes he’s making stuff up
it’s you know so it’s like that’s not academics he’s a joke he’s a joke he’s a joke really
Really? Well, you know what? My entire audience, you need to know that Danny just invited Carrier to come. Let’s wrestle. Let’s wrestle. Let’s see what happens. I tried to spare you. I tried. Oh, God. Give it to me.
so no it doesn’t change the standards of academics you’re just saying that he’s not an
academic that now he’s just andy kaufman or whatever right so like it’s just some sort of
like performative art right or whatever it’s so you can’t rely on him you can’t say that anything
he’s saying is true because now you’re saying that he himself is saying that it’s not true
uh so i think that the really what i would say to someone who’s saying like that is that well
okay so then you’re just saying that it’s all false and you’re just trying to justify why it’s
okay. Wait a minute. This is a guy talking to a hypothetical guy about a hypothetical situation
presented by a dude that we don’t have their name from. Do you feel like you’re in 1331?
Have we hit the mark yet, people? Are we right there? How much reason, how much philology,
How much evidence that you could bring to a court have these people presented?
They are selling you a false reality.
And that’s why their lawyers are screaming, because it’s been exposed.
Do you understand?
God, sue them.
I’d rather not sue them.
I’d rather let them make the blunders that they would make like this.
This is a blunder.
Why would you do this?
right? Oh my God. Keep going. People, you’ve got to understand if he agrees to go to Danny,
their entire operations reputation will be on the line. It already took a hit when Urban went down,
right? What do you think this is going to do to it? I told him, if I were on a date with you
and we went to a karate mess, do you think I’d go out when there was a black belt out there and say,
hey, Bob, why don’t you give me a shot? Of course I wouldn’t. Of course I wouldn’t because I respect
the discipline too much. Oh, this will be somebody in a message that was, you don’t have to find it
to me, but somebody in a message, people on Danny or Joe Rogan, I think it was Joe Rogan, said,
you don’t know what you’re doing because they were talking, the people in the comments were
talking about a setup. And one of the guys said, I am a classical philologist. You do not know what
you are doing. Do not engage Dr. Hillman. He’ll, it was something like, he’ll basically hand it to
you, right? I don’t know what you people are doing. I really don’t. You should see that the classicists
won’t step forward when you realize that that’s why i kept asking danny please get a classicist
somebody will sit in that chair and i can just go through a bunch of greek texts and they get
um uh-huh wait let me finish reading that one okay wait what is that oh yeah okay is that
we go through how’d you like us to go through 200 sources christing sources right right in the
smack there with biblical everything. How would you like that, people? It’d be great. A classicist
could do it, but even a classicist would be a little bit hesitant. They’d want to know beforehand,
like, you know, are we going to isolate? Can we just do these different groups or what?
No. It’s all. It’s all of Mother Craig. It’s all. Which do you want, people? Do you want the people
who’ve never read it, or do you want the dude who’s reading it all? Is he going to be able to?
Shut up, Timmy. That’s not the point. Of course, I’m not going to be able to read it all.
Nobody’s able to read it all. That’s how prolific the Greek mind was, right? It’s in the language,
people. It’s in the language. Fantastic. Fantastic. Is the mic okay, people? Chewy keeps asking me,
mic okay let’s keep going with some of this great interview say false things yeah um i i’m i don’t
believe you but i could say like if that’s what you want to believe in your heart about uh yeah
right then then you would you should agree with me that everything he says is false like so we’re
that’s this right you academically you’re just admitting that everything he says is false and
so it’s you can’t rely on him for facts or anything like that i mean if that’s where they
want to go i’m in fact that’s like an own goal i’m like all right do you realize they’re talking
about that hypothetical argument right is anybody still on the train right now now they’re in sheer
propaganda phil because this is just it’s nothing it’s nothing shake your head oh my god right
those historians who your peers should be shaking their head right they’ll be like what about
sources primary sources into sources what are you doing he’s a classicist right so anyway i guess
you know look people devil wants to feed me he wants to feed me and this would be a nice opening
sacrifice for the for the satanic cathedral fantastic hit me with the next one welcome
them do you that’s use that defense that’s great i like that spread that around um the question is
though like would laman hillman say that like to say is will he come out and say yeah it’s just all
performative art it’s all i’m not really serious about any of this stuff like is he himself going
to say that because that’s not how he’s asked no wait he’s speculating he’s speculating whether or
not i will come out and admit that what i am doing is performance art have you two gentlemen ever
heard of the circle jerk have you ever heard i think you’re proficient i think you’re proficient
at it people oh my god seriously seriously people how much look i shouldn’t even have to say this
why am i even saying this you know i mean stupid people this is the best you can do i know you are
but what am i is that what you’re talking about people can i just say and put your circle jerkery
to rest. Let me just say, ancient texts are real. Classical philologists translate those ancient
texts. This is all 100% real. And the devil makes me keep a high standard. He was like,
don’t you fucking misinform those people. Not once, right? And I was like, what if I get something
wrong i thought i saw he’s like oh and when the devil goes oh you shut up so keeping it accurate
is important oh yeah right i will i will let’s keep going go ahead like when he’s talking about
no one will debate me it’s like that sounds like you think you’re telling the truth yeah
that doesn’t sound like a performance are you saying yeah he’s so yeah so so anyway yeah
sorry to stop so many times that sounds to me like you think you’re telling the truth
do you know what a classicist is not a classicist is not a truth teller i don’t go around telling
truth i translate texts and if the text says jesus was arrested in a public park with a naked kid
with a bandage on his hoo-ha that fell off and he ran away naked if it says that i’m obliged
to bring it to you there’s no truth there’s no what are you it’s your you sound like a theologian
are historians just theologians is that what you people are did the modern discipline of history
just spring from from seminaries it must have people it must have i’ll bet harvard’s to blame
for this i’ll bet they are i’m sorry i can say that because the harvard classical philologist
won’t step out so i get to shame them on a regular basis it’s just shame people it’s part of the
ambience of tartarus right ask them about it they’ve read these texts they can tell you
fantastic give me the more video love it i think that the the parsing you have to do there is like
well what are we actually saying that right are you if you’re gonna say that he’s just a satirist
then you’re also saying that it’s all false and there has no academic value and we can just chuck
it right like if if you want to get like for entertaining purposes want to go watch him
say silly things and sure whatever okay did you hear that if he’s saying this which he’s not
therefore everything you’re about to say is full of crap and the very last thing he said was to
blame you did you hear what he said about you run it back to it give us that same a little bit what
does he say about satanic congregation go ahead there’s like well what are we actually saying
that right are you if you’re going to say that he’s just a satirist then you’re also saying that
it’s all false and never has no academic value and we can just chuck it right if you want to
get like for entertaining purposes want to go watch him say silly things and sure whatever
that’s who you are you’re the stupid people according to richard carer who just want to
watch me say crazy things do you hear that it’s not very nice now what he’s about to call you in
a minute is way worse but don’t worry he’s gonna call me that first that’s why they call me they
sue him so bad man that rocks but you know just let them do their thing man they do their own
thing they show who they are right they show who they are oh is that the congregation she says
they’re your congregation i love it i love it okay give me a little more conversation but uh
but no it doesn’t have anything to do with the truth in that case if he’s like literally
this guy who’s satire like a satirist and he’s only doing this as a joke why when he’s talking
about little boys right in this example of the gospels this neoniscos and then gets corrected
in the background by carl ruck carl ruck’s like no that’s factually wrong it’s a young man and
then he ends up going back later in the same lecture to you little boy yeah like you’re right
that is a young man and then he goes back to a little i really think he’s like something’s off
and i can’t put my finger that’s all i talk about okay fantastic people i didn’t want to do this
i didn’t want to do this but if you really are curious and interested why would i not do that
why would i not correct call ruck call ruck is pointing out that the neoneus is a young man
but this neoneus is a diminutive it’s a diminutive it’s at the lower end of the young
this kid is somewhere between nine and 14 ish okay would it be the least bit classy
for me to stand up or i was already standing up giving a presentation to stand up and say well
hang on say dr ruck have you considered that it it is the diminutive form that i’m looking at
right no i would be an asshole because it’s not an important point people it’s the people who read
who jump in and read that you need to consult about these texts and dr rock would be the first
to agree okay keep going but that my article too towards the end i i bring that up possibility that
he might just be crazy right so uh the um but here’s the thing it’s like so we’ve been posed
this question is like okay is it okay to do performance art um the thing is is i was like
he wrote an article that was supposed to be an academic article for what was supposed to be an
academic book so is did he think that he was pulling a socal hoax that it was like ahaha i
tricked an academic into publishing my garbage right okay people do you understand what he’s
doing he’s talking about a hypothetical situation that wasn’t actually true now he’s got a
hypothetical me and we’re all sitting watching hypothetical me do terrible things do you
understand what is at the rock base of all of this. This is just defamation of character.
Do you understand? He’s crazy. Did you hear him say he’s crazy? He’s crazy. You want to see crazy?
You want to see crazy? Come read some Greek with me. Let me show people, Dr. Carrier, historian,
let me show people which one of us actually does these sources. Okay, fantastic. By the way,
dr care your expertise is right right in the back alley of mine do you understand we overlap buddy
have you read all the sources history of science seriously it’s not classical philology bud when
it comes to the sources fantastic give me the next let’s keep listening like to to denounce academia
for like how dare you publish completely obviously false things like if that was his crusade like
you know i get with them yeah you got a point there right like if that if yeah it was all
false i made it up okay if it was false and he made it up but it’s not and i didn’t and that
was a very top-notch publication he’s talking about the elsevier publication this is a two
volume work color beautiful color panels of all the history of pharmacology and toxicology
Do you understand? You know who’s reading this? Pharmacy students. Pharmacy students.
Do these knuckleheads really think that the editor is going to let me prance in
and be some kind of satirical joker? Do you think your audience is that friggin’ stupid?
These are pharmacy students. They have to get the facts backed up. Do you see how many
footnotes are in that thing you can’t read the footnotes because half of them are in greek
my god now people of myth visions populace you need to understand what your own leader is doing
do you understand do you see it fantastic i hope you do and i hope you can break free from the
crane goblin fantastic did he say green goblin no greed goblin with the d as in delta love it
delta’s great have you ever looked at a delta just kind of look at it ride and sit there be like you
know what what’s that most of the letters are kind of curvaceous you know what i mean not that big
delta something special love it okay let’s keep going what are these gentlemen gonna regale us
with just to see how easy it would be to get this garbage past peer review and like okay like if
that’s if that’s your mission i would get behind it but obviously that’s not what he’s doing that’s
your whole point he’s not doing that he’s not saying oh yeah it was all bogus it was a joke
this reflects more of a light on this the person who’s trying to defend on it and this yeah it’s
a really weird defense i don’t understand like where they think how they think that helps their
position like what i don’t know off the hook yeah because because i think i know what it’s
doesn’t is my point is you’re basically just you’re throwing him on okay it’s getting almond
off the hook for an imaginary problem that doesn’t exist. And we’re making all of this up. Why?
Because we are inadequate. We are inadequate. Followers of Aphrodite, you’ll understand what
I’m talking about. What? Yes, no. Followers of Aphrodite, they’re our closest allies, right?
Where does this all go? It all goes back to Aphrodite people, right? That’s what the Greek
is saying these people don’t know those things because they don’t read the greek fantastic what
do they like to do they like to sit around and talk about imaginary problems just blow me up for
one yeah you know what keep me there keep me there this is nemesis people people of the congregation
of myth vision i want you to realize what you are watching i hope you can see for yourselves
exactly what you are watching and supporting. You are supporting a fictitious, falsified argument
in the middle of a fictitious, falsified theory of what it is that a fictitious, falsified person
like myself would do. It’s fantastic, people. It must be degrading. It must be degrading to
realize, oh my God, that is behind. People, does it stop for you to question a minute and say,
what kind of programming have I been plugged into right it’s history people
learn it if we cannot unplug from the flim flammery we’re doomed ah god let’s
hear more of the wisdom of these two go ahead get it I get it like it gets size
does matter more advertising more advertising people what a pain remember
why don’t we advertise because we’re not in a brothel i’m not here to make money you know it’s
either i can make money and you can sit through those or you and i can just talk out and you can
put up chats and nice look nobody gives a nobody’s paying put somebody up there yo satanic
congregation give it to me never on lady babylon you’d know it whatever that was you’d know it
right right wiener adverts right you’re never gonna have wiener adverts on lady babylon
do people want wiener adverts i don’t think they do that’s a poll question do people want wiener
adverts right did that one have ketchup they bent that thing over did you see that that poor wiener
nobody does that put it on a bun lay it on a bun yes people eat your wiener off a bun
so you don’t have to bend it fantastic are you ready here we go just it’s okay don’t worry wait
go ahead yes okay choo is doing anyway um let’s hear some more of what the guys are wanting to
judah are you sure just reverse it just reverse it all right okay go ahead hit it
uh it gets in their mind and they’re they’re defending of this hi um it gets almond off the
hook in their mind for everyone to get off almonds back about don’t take it this serious take it’s
all and then they mott and bailey and then they immediately go to oh it’s all serious and we can
use it as truth right right right yeah like okay yeah if if if that’s to get to that point this
particular critic who’s claiming this about almond hillman i mean first of all almond hillman could
just tell us whether he’s doing it or not that would really come down to it but uh but if this
guy wants to what you want to do is you want to see if he mops and bailey’s so explain to the
audience i’m going to explain dude dude no no i would much rather i would much rather you guys
make fools out of yourselves trust me and show your hand to your own audience i would much rather
you do that so no i wouldn’t preempt this for a second are you kidding go ahead you keep playing
it is this the oh where did you get this picture is this oh god is this an ai definitely why people
embrace the art people come on the old-fashioned give me the next one and this mott and bailey is
a particular strategy of argument it’s a disingenuous strategy of argument and the idea
is that like the mott is like the fortress and then you have like farmland and you have a wall
like a low wall around it that’s the bailey right so the bailey is hard to defend because it’s like
it’s a weak position the strong position is the mott so there’s an argument form called this where
you you started blah blah and now i’m gonna go into this medieval bullshit everything that i’ve
said to you so far is the practice and circle jerkery i’m gonna pick my nose i’m gonna wave
my hands i’m going to distract your mind your silly mind from the fact that i’m not looking
at anything that has the least bit to do with the evidence with the tags with the reality
do you get it okay because now we can’t get into the mod so they leave and then what do you do you
retreat back to the bailey and now you’re arguing that it’s all true and it wasn’t a satire after
all and so it’s just a strategy to get people to go away it doesn’t actually defend the position
that you’re supposed that you actually want to defend so the question is does this particular
critic do they ever go to the bailey like are they consistent do they just always use it as
though it’s not factually true as oh my sophist god oh my sophist god people do you not understand
do you listen to these sophists like this people imagine somebody is paying for that
Somebody is paying for that, right?
When MythVision moved across the country, somebody paid for it.
Somebody paid for it.
The information flow is right into the people’s pockets.
Do you not understand?
Do you not understand?
Academia has itself embraced this prostitution.
you will see there are several people associated with these programs who are bigwigs at universities
making bigwig money. Money, money, money, money, money, money, money. And that’s why the lawyer
yells while the laughing in the background is about the recordings. Fantastic people.
it’s funny isn’t it sell them no no let them let them be who they are go for it you
myth vision people keep doing what you’re doing it’s absolutely perfect absolutely perfect go ahead
go ahead are they consistent in that position or do they keep switching to the daily this person
the tama is a guy named mandy um and i think he’s always still says it’s all satire what’s really
odd is is that people who are arguing with this person about this and i’ve heard him say the whole
bible is satire right yeah so they have this like everything satire kind of procession of everything
in the world life is a satire i guess everything gravitation of lunatics to the same yeah like all
these different kinds of people who have these crazy ideas like attached to this like it’s it’s
a strange thing to me because i gravitation of lunatics is that what you people are a gravitation
of lunatics you see you see what i’m talking about 1331 people can you feel it can you read it from
these people when the money is the god you’re still a monist when your money is the god you’re
still a monster nothing of what these people have said and the intelligent audience of myth vision
knows this they’re giving comments right and they’re doing saying the same thing keep them
keep them going imagine satire is a particular category of genre yeah it’s also funny that you
because you could go like if let’s say ahmed hillman comes down and just admits it it’s all
satire it’s a joke etc he’s not gonna but let’s say he did that right uh and then well now we
could just go walk away really let’s not let’s not because i’m not do you understand if you tried
this in an academic conference they would boot you out they would boot you out if this is what
historians. This guy is an example of an academic historian. Can you believe that? If he pulled this
at least at a classics conference, people, I’ll say bacteriology one, two, molecular biology,
because I’ve been to those too, right? You try to pull that kind of garbage there, nobody’s,
but you know, at a BACT conference or a molecular biology conference, nobody is trying to sell you
the information right they’re not trying to sell you the information now they may have gotten the
grants for the sake of making money don’t get me wrong but when you go to a conference to present
a paper that’s uh there’s an academic code there and these guys are obviously not familiar with
anything even remotely like that i’m surprised a historian would be like this i’m really surprised
you right fantastic go oh well this is all false and we’re done move on and then uh but then you
actually because he’s switching them out of academia into comedy he’s saying oh this is
comedy not academia well now we get to criticize him as a comedian right and so it’s like if we’re
gonna do that now i wrote an article about this the theory of humor and philosophy right uh and
then okay people if he’s a comedian then we’re gonna approach it this way do you see what’s
going on it’s a big distraction because they got nothing and he’s supposed to know some greek and
he really doesn’t if he’s willing to come on danny jones right then i can show you in front of the
whole world but if he does that he’s gonna i don’t know i wouldn’t do it because that would be
embarrassing that would be embarrassing and it’s just not smart you know what i mean it’s like
those videos those youtube body cam videos you know what i’m talking about because you love
those things i know you do because i do i do and i know they’re delicious i love those things i
don’t know why right oh god no matter how horrific i think it’s the ultimate voyeurism or something
i think that’s what it is human human voyeurism we haven’t spanked anybody this episode kind of
gets me down what keep they keep asking okay anyway about that why was i even telling them
about that do they keep asking for a spanking people when you merit a spanking when the cosmos
commands me i shall give one i shall give one but if you thirst for the spanking you’re more than
welcome to let chewie know chewie let everyone know who thirsts for the spanking okay let’s let
him keep talking let’s let him keep talking i don’t think he’d survive critique because i think
his jokes aren’t funny like like the satire is like it’s disturbing rather than uh uh than funny
right like if you’re talking about like what is a good satire like what is a joke that is a racist
joke that people laugh at right like that’s different from a joke racism yeah
right well it’s also different from a joke like you could go to the Chappelle
show this is the I use examples from the Chappelle show where where there are
jokes that if you took them out of context would look like racist jokes but
in context what you’re laughing at is racism is that then well now we get to
critique him on this like like what is the moral point behind your joke like it’s not a good one
so like like you’re not oh my god can you fast forward people look he’s talking about an imaginary
person seriously seriously do people buy this mithvision’s audience you’re looking not so good
i mean satanic congregation i i you know i gotta give it to you i gotta give it to you you you are
smart. You are smart. You are smart. I’ll just say it. I don’t care. I’ll just say it. I’ll just
say it. MythVision’s audience, I don’t think they don’t, how could you watch this and not just be
insulted intellectually? You’re talking about fantasies. You’re literally sitting around
mentally jerking off to a fantasy. Oh my God. It’s embarrassing. I’ll bet he’s afraid because
he’s like oh i didn’t think he i thought he was a buddy thank you because i told danny no once
i bet he thought for sure there’s no way hillman will say yes to this oh sure do you want to go
do some greek together brother let’s go do it let’s show them exactly what you know and don’t
know fantastic fantastic give me more more people it gets worse so i know we’re going a little bit
long but i want you to see how bad it gets and see what they think of you see what they think of you
go ahead that’s right yeah that’s right yeah he just surrendered the bailey like the war is over
we’re right like why watch it we can just starve out the tower now like we don’t we don’t need to
retreat right so uh so yeah i i think like uh i that doesn’t seem like a good strategy to me for
defending on the hillman frank what’s the other thing for me and i’ve been watching for a long
time is neil learned greek originally started learning greek with the guy and got close and
knew the guy quite well oh yeah it understood that this guy really was he in a sense he is
very religiously motivated in this it’s not a joke he’s like a mystic he believes he’s into
the muse and that’s okay all right let me let me make a couple of corrections that need to be made
okay i’ve been teaching ancient greek for quite a while i’ve been teaching it for quite a while
and neil asked me to teach him ancient greek so i put him into the intensive program put him into
the intensive program and he made it through the first three chapters a little bit of difficulty
but then the fourth really just kind of stopped it now and he quit from there now i have a lot
of students i have a lot of students over time and the ones who make it through the intensive
course will tell you, oh, there’s plenty of times that I wanted to quit, right? I have students who
just get overwhelmed. They’ll quit for a month and then try to come back, right? And I have no
problem with that because that’s the level of difficulty we’re dealing with. There’s a reason
that people said, you know, oh, it’s all Greek to me, right? It was ancient Greek they were talking
about. Do you understand? Fantastic. So let’s take that back a little bit. And Neil wanted to
work with me and wanted to do the grief, but he just didn’t make it. So I’ve got, to give a fair
assessment, I have probably 20% of my students over the years who have opted out and stayed out
about 20%. So he is in the bottom 20% of the students that I’ve taught. If I were to give him,
because he said he learned Greek, and so I’m setting the record straight, if I were to give
him Greek, he’s not able to read it, okay? I promise you, all right? Who would know that
better than me? Who would know that better, right? His former Greek instructor, exactly,
right so let’s be accurate devil insists on accuracy you know for it oh and what did he
say about the people he said something yeah okay keep going i really was he in a sense he is very
religiously motivated in this it’s not a joke he’s like a mystic he believes he’s into the muse and
that spirits contract with the devil all that kind of stuff like he’s some mystic so it’s not
oh let’s just play the joke game and get everyone to stop seeing how much we can over and over and
over falsify everything he’s saying in so many ways um but neil knew him as like someone who
who’s like really trying to revive the ancient greek world in a way um and like you said it
it felt like at one point he might be jabbing at the church and like all priests do this to boys
you know stuff like that in history then in other places it sounds like he’s actually saying now
this like adult men with young boys in the ancient world like this is the greek way of life like like
yeah yeah this is one of the things that i okay now we’ve talked about an imaginary me
a hypothetical me who’s able to do x y or z and if you did then he would be an imaginary bad
comedian and now we’re going to talk about this other person right who’s this other person oh this
this other person is a bad guy but don’t you just don’t say anything satanic congregation because
they’re going to say the same thing about you all right i want you to hear the words that they are
saying hear this people this is a brilliant history lesson yes right so he said hey what
about the muse right right what about the muse you see people you can be inspired and you can be
dis-inspired. People have wanted to know what happened in that student-teacher relationship.
Neil was getting a lot of flack for being around me because what I was saying was ruining the
enterprise. He was getting a lot of flack. And I told him, I advised him. I said, look,
and I advised him with the same care that I gave any of my students. And I advised him,
you got two paths. You can follow the money or you can follow the muse. And if you follow the
money, you will be disinspired. Do you understand? That’s the way it is. It’s the physics of the
cosmos. That’s the way it works. Now I’m a mystic. Have I ever said to anybody out there,
I’m a mystic? No, I’m not. I’m not. Amen Hillman is not a mystic. What kind of knucklehead would
say that first of all about themselves seriously a mystic that’s not what i want to be that’s not
what i want to be i want to be i want to be involved with lady greek man because she and
i got this thing going and she’s sexy i love it give it to me next give next clip people now
listen don’t be shocked when i was doing the critique and i’m looking at everything from like
there’s court transcripts by the way there’s like trial transcripts that relate to this
documents and stuff and there’s like a lot of videos and like there’s a whole debate around
the debate right and uh one of the things and i i kind of you kind of get the sense of it go
through my article that i i feel like how do i put this so it’s like he’s trying to create a safe
space for right so do you remember like i don’t know if you remember but okay did you hear that
so far we’ve talked about an imaginary me a hypothetical me somebody who would do this in
in this case, be a comedian, somebody who that we’re going to do this to. And now they’re talking
about the worst thing that they could possibly do. And this is why, that’s why a very important
person in my existence, a person whose advice I trust more than anyone’s told me,
sue the shit out of these people, right? You see what they’re doing? He’s about to call me the
worst thing that you can possibly call someone and why is he doing it i know you are but what am i
jesus was arrested in a public park therefore what are they going to say about me give it to me
you think it’s the first time yeah there was a time for a hot second when uh um what was it
called uh nambla i think it was like the national association of men boys i don’t know whatever i
think it was whatever it was it was some it was some literal organization that was pro
lied other countries and right it was saying yeah like yeah i don’t know if they’re still
around or whatever but uh but that was a thing but or they were through this mechanism trying
to create a safe space for to be open and talking about stuff and i kind of feel like this
oh no but we’re having a serious academic argument or even this oh it’s just satire
like these are excuses to allow the discourse to these are excuses no they’re not nobody has ever
almond hillman has never said what you’re saying do you see people if this doctor carrier has the
guts to go on danny i’m going to insist that danny plays this clip and have him explain exactly what
he’s talking about exactly fantastic do you see what they can get away with when they hide
do you see go ahead let people see satanic congregation this is for you go listen to what
says about you continue and to suck people into the discourse so now now we’re okay talking about
like gross fantasies and stuff because it’s serious academia or it’s satire like whatever
the reason is it just is an excuse to attract to then defend their man like because they want to
defend their safe space right now they can be out and not just say that they’re no this is serious
like of course we should talk about like you were just saying like but in greece it was okay you
you know like that like like dragging it in that direction it becomes kind of like a gateway drug
to sort of be pro okay okay did i ever say that to you oh it’s okay they didn’t increase it’s okay
do you see what’s wrong with these people do you see what they’re doing why ask yourself why would
they resort to this why would they resort to this right exactly that’s six six six that’s how you
know we won, right? Because they’re having to resort to that. Imagine, but did this guy go to
school? Did he actually talk to an attorney anywhere? Did he ever in his life run across
an attorney, people? Do you understand what slander is? It’s when you make up shit about
somebody like you’re doing. That’s slander, right? Oh, God. Technically, which one is it? Liable?
oh where’s that attorney oh he was good he was good fantastic people what are we interested in
in satanic congregation i’m way more interested in you people not getting sucked in in myth
visions people not getting sucked in by this kind of shameful activity anybody who’s bought these
courses and they’re expensive remember what he told me it’s a money maker right that’s what’s
important do you care what i say no it’s a money maker all right fantastic disingenuous are you
ready for the for them to level the worst thing you could say go ahead keep playing finish it
right for me and the question then becomes like is aman hillman aware that he’s doing this
or is he just sort of someone who stumbled into doing it and then all the people who’ve
gravitating to him and defending him like are they like just trying to prop up their man because
they love that he’s created this space for them to talk about this stuff and force other people
to talk about it like literally i’m so disgusted that they forced me to talk about this shit like
i don’t even want to talk about this it’s like because it’s so gross like the whole description
and everything it’s like he’s so vivid and like really just yeah people people you forced him
now you forced to talk about this to talk about what the text that says jesus was arrested with
a naked kid in the public park is that what you have to talk about you know what you don’t have
to talk about if you don’t want to if you don’t want to right but you chose to so you know what
come on out to danny come on out to danny we’ll have a talk yeah we’ll find out exactly right
we’ll just lay it out on the table there and show everybody what you can do you great historian
right let’s go for it let’s do it right oh god people the fact that it kind of makes me mad it
makes chewy really mad but it kind of makes me mad that he would try to wrap you up he just said
that you you people who are texting right now or who are putting messages up right so our locks you
What you’re doing, Sarlox, is you are enabling an imaginary child banana person.
Do you understand?
I can’t say it right.
Right?
That’s what you’re enabling, people.
You’re enabling that.
Look, what about Chewy’s art, right?
Listen to what these people are like.
Listen to it.
You people of MythVision, you followers, who pay for this? Do you know what Neil’s laughing at?
Neil’s laughing at the fact that you paid for him to move when he didn’t need you. This is a money
game and Neil knows it. I told you, Neil, you can follow the muse or you can run after the money.
you’re not laughing now it’s amazing people who’s got the integrity where’s our poll by the way
where’s our poll bring it up bring it up people right at least i don’t have to have him asking
me to be on the show all the time right does anybody find that on oh god we got this 80 20
split again right right oh right can you show me the poll yeah nobody in the 80 percent wants to
have advertisements. Nobody wants that. People, that’s why I think something’s funny. Something
funny is going on with our Polaroid. Do you understand? I can’t believe that there are 20%
of you out there who would rather see advertisements. Do you want me to make
advertisements? I can do that. If that’s all, we can have little commercials, right? Right? We can
sell all sorts of things, right? We can sell that stuff. They’re Christing. Oh, by the way, people,
I’m inundated with eunuchs. I got them all over me. I got eunuchs all over me, man. They’re all
over the text, and you are going to be surprised when you find out Jesus talking about, blessed
are these eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven, okay? We can’t go back, people, right?
This is not the kind of thing that myth vision can tackle. Why? It doesn’t have the skill, right?
right oh god love it i love it people they didn’t oh some people said they didn’t understand
question you know what that is a problem of our polling is i am a terrible poll maker you know
i mean we i took a biostatistics course um at the university of arizona and they talk about
gathering data and stuff like that i don’t it’s just evaded me it’s just poll questions just
evade me all right let’s keep going more video people let’s finish it off it’s almost done
yeah something no without a doubt you can walk away yeah it’s perverted yeah yeah i mean and
everybody those people everyone has kinks i’m not shaming people’s kinks yeah but when it’s all
nine-year-old boys you yeah you’re out you’re outside you’re outside ethical kinkdom there
dude he’s just it’s just over the freaking top too i guess the reason why i think this is a big
deal is the way it gets pitched by people who are very close to him and it’s unfortunate for
someone who wants to claim the satire card when someone like danny jones who’s got a million
subscribers huge audience is taking almonds ideas serious enough to take them to joe yeah yeah
to pitch it like listen this guy i don’t i can’t i can’t bet him but like this is what he’s saying
and this might be going on this might be real when you’re doing that you might as well i understand
you want to defend almond for what for whatever weird reason yeah but at the end of the day i
legitimate questions about motive here but yeah the people in power with real numbers are like
neil quarter million subs um danny million subs they’re the ones that are taking him seriously
that’s right so you’re insignificant if you’re like you’re not anybody on the internet that’s
making any moves and you just want to claim satire yeah this sounds like you’re part of the club and
you just wanted to bend his weirdness and yeah now he just sounds like a whining keep going
i don’t know it could just be this this guy just has a fetish for calling everything satire and
so he’s just a lone person who doesn’t represent any kind of movement or fan base or anything like
that so i would just dismiss him as like you’re that’s just irrelevant like walk away like you’re
you’re not even participating in the conversation at that point if you’re saying oh it’s just satire
hillman doesn’t say it’s satire no one else is saying it’s satire so yeah like just give
up but on that line like that’s clearly a losing uh proposition oh my god oh my god did you see
that quick removal of the thumb there in the end yeah he had us all right then all of a sudden
you know how do you you know what i mean and there it is out it comes you know now this is just all
based on ideas anyway, so excuse me? You’re going to compare me to hypothetical bullshit,
stuff that I never said you’re going to say, imply that I said? No, no. And then turn around
and say that me and my congregation, that we are all some sort of worst creep you could possibly
imagine. And you’re just going to stand up at the end and say, well, you know, this is all
based on hypothetical. I take it back. I guess you did talk to that attorney. I guess you did
talk to him. But your audience should see, Joker, exactly what you’re doing. This video should be
perfect. It should be mandatory viewing for the MythVision audience, for them to see exactly
how their people are not the authorities, and they are selling you out. Oh, God. Now,
satanic congregation, I figured you’d want to add some comments here to the, you know,
what you do, I mean, you just had a show, a little response to the, no, no. People,
it’s a public service announcement. It’s a public service announcement. Do you understand?
a public service announcement to keep you from being taken advantage of. That is exactly what
I am doing. Is it satire? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You know, Danny Jones said it
the funniest, right? Right? He understands why I say hail Satan. You see what Jesus did. Hail Satan.
you see who jesus was hail satan you see how these people are who make profit off of you
hail satan thank you for coming tonight satanic congregation i think this was a lot of fun
and please please continue please continue to write no that was it there’s a plug at the end
oh are they merchandising no we don’t have to see it we don’t see it there’s still merchandising how
long does this have to go on right satanic congregation please give your verbal or written
i should say support to danny jones send him an email and say hey you and steve rock right danny
jones can make this happen if dr carrier is dumb enough to come i’m perfectly happy just to very
calmly and very precisely show you exactly what somebody who says they do it and don’t actually
do it, what those people are all about. You’ll see it crumble. How do we know what we know?
Mother Greek or archaeology, and you’re not an archaeologist. Fantastic. Let’s do it, people.
I love it. I love the science, and I love you nerds. Satanic congregation, thank you. A special
thank you tonight for being big, being big, for being able to stand up against stuff like this,
stuff like this. People who are watching, all of you who are watching, this was for you.
Do you understand? Thank you for coming tonight. Hail Satan.
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