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The episode descends into prehistory. Ammon Hillman reads Diodorus Siculus, who reports that Linus wrote down the deeds of Dionysus in the letters of the Pelasgians, the pelasgikois grammasi (πελασγικοῖς γράμμασι), and that Orpheus and Pronapides, the teacher of Homer, used the same writing. Hillman claims the Pelasgians were the autochthonous people before Greece, before the Indo-European story, and that their letters show up on the Lemnian stele, written back and forth like a serpent. The Pelasgians, he says, are the people the Romans called Etruscans and the Greeks called Tyrrhenians.
The title comes from a cave in Diodorus. Amun, he reports, is the father of the first Dionysus, and brought the child to a circular cave of many-colored rocks, where Nysa and Aristaeus guarded him until the birth of Athena near the river Triton. Then Cronus overthrew Amun and ruled harshly over his land. Hillman reads Amun as the prophetic god behind the oracle of Dodona, and points out that the name Pelasgian appears to come from the purple of the sea, pelagios (πελάγιος). The Phoenicians, in his telling, were only the purple people, transmitting a writing that was older than themselves.
The close brings Adam and Eve out of the fairytale. Hillman flashes a chart of Linear B and argues that Adam is not a Hebrew name but an old Greek word hidden in the Mycenaean tablet, tied to the four quarters and to Amun in Crete. Nothing, he says, is the way it was taught, and the cave of the Pelasgians is the place where the virgin became the oracle. Peisistratus, Khurene, Bacchus, the line is reported as his reconstruction, not as established scholarship. The panel ends on the Indus valley and on Jung’s night journey to Nyx, pointing to the same mother. The episode’s summary closes not on a proven fact but on a search.
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I never meant anything I said, just spittin’ it up.
I’ve been keepin’ from eatin’ the bad meat.
Never said anything I meant.
I never sent the letters that I should’ve sent.
So it’s askin’ too much, know you oughta believe.
I say, nobody know when I say.
Never was a cause for a lot of what I was talkin’ about anyway.
Welcome back, welcome back.
It’s nice to see everyone.
We have a great, great, great topic to delve into tonight and a place to go.
And I’m very happy to say that at the end of our time together tonight, our 30 minutes,
we’ll have four very well-known guests who will give us an announcement.
Yes, we have a great announcement to give tonight.
Fantastic.
I can’t wait.
um those those of us who value honor will feel the shame of our ancestors yeah this should this
should prove to be an outstanding outstanding time we’re going to start off we’re going to
start off with oh excuse me we’re going to start off i’m sorry a little direction problem
don’t worry dewey i’ll tell you when um we’re going to start off today though with our section
on the cave of Amun. And we’re going to take now the next step down in our descent into the
Chthonian realm. Again, we’re going to do it by bringing the future and the past together
and the present. Fantastic. We’ll begin with a look at Anastasia. And so I want to run a couple
of just a couple of clips say a couple of things and uh hone kind of focus where we’re looking here
remember we’re searching for lady babylon and under the right circumstances everything
can come together so tonight i want to start off with a couple of clips that we’ve put together
here from neil’s interview with anastasia and i want us to look at just responses i just want to
see what our response is as if we’re just having tea saying what is this situation and who is this
person let’s run the first one i am like a volunteer obviously but i talk with soldiers
quite a bit and you know it’s has not diminished people are very hyped and still willing to do what
is necessary to do and people always say like you know we didn’t choose the war obviously but it’s
here so what else can you do other than you know defend what you love and what we love is ukraine
you know and our people uh so people from the west say like oh we should stop this war we should go
for peace agreements because we care about ukrainian people and yet no you don’t you know
if you cared about ukrainian people you would listen to what ukrainian people want
and what we want by every estimation by every poll in existence is uh to continue fighting
no matter what and to return our uh people back home and what russians are doing to those people
there is atrocious and in ways i cannot even describe to you every liberated city has had
mass graves uh tortures rapes slaughter of civilians on insane scale and this is the
weight for us to liberate them so this is not negotiable we’re not giving up those people
to russia and to this nothingness basically is what expects them if we give up on them
So, so what we’ve got is some more of the shenanigans. And now the criminal courts have declared that, hey, look, Vlad, Vlad Putin is taking children. Look at the irony. If you cannot taste the irony of this, Vlad is abducting children like a pirate.
Yeah. And he’s forcing them, putting them in camps, forcing them to speak Russian. No more
Ukrainian. No more Ukrainian. You’ll speak Russian. Look at the irony here about those who support
Putin. This is a strong woman. People talk about a strong woman in the States. This is a strong
on she was involved in the 2014 revolution and when i get a chance to interview her i’ve been
waiting but apparently harkiv was hit by gifted with with hypersonic missiles and drones and
all sorts of things to keep them in the dark so as soon as we can i will get an interview for her
um she’s agreed to do it and i’m gonna ask her i’m gonna ask her about the nitty-gritty let
her speak to hit her again with the western support we are having right now we have every
chance to win it and we intend to we intend to do that and i hope we will continue please do if you
can to support maybe ukrainian volunteers i have a paypal as well by the way on my twitter which
you can help out and see what i’m doing on twitter i post like pretty much everything i’m doing
and uh yeah so assist uh organizations that help ukraine uh such as come back alive for example
which is a pretty good uh fund to help ukraine or maybe help like volunteers like me for example
and people who are doing projects of helping our army in every way we can and also talk with people
about it is also very important so you know to to fight against some narratives that russia
propaganda continues to spew and those who support russia in the west as well so do try to you know
to fight them back and to spread the word so bringing this message just
how how difficult is it for us just to bring we have the technology now we can bring
her message out right and we can show the world right we can be those people who put that statue
of the virgin on the hill and said freedom that’s what it’s about that’s what it’s about one more
time so they already did some moves like they did in 2014 to achieve that and i do think they would
be full-on ready for all-out invasion uh into georgia and baldova but then is with them up
you know so so these are stopped currently at ukraine which is i guess for us to be the shield
sort of to georgia and to moldova and protect countries from well you know with our with our
i guess bodies and lives you could say because um there should not move anywhere further and
they should be stopped uh for good this time around i hope like why are we not helping these
people why are we not hoping these people why we’re giving money to ukraine if we could help
this and help that and you’re just like dudes like i we’re super appreciate the help obviously right
without it would be but um it’s not because you give money to ukraine that are homeless people
in the united states you know they just point out various problems in the united states and they
try to blame it on united states helping ukraine against this unjust invasion which is pretty
strange because there’s no connection to those things whatsoever yeah fantastic right listen
to it from the source i mean that isn’t that what we need anyway you don’t need any commentary you
don’t need to explain it you just need to hear the voice we’re gonna hear one more and then we’re
gonna jump into the cave he’s talking about this holodomor which is the famine i mentioned four
million people plus died in that so not only they were like uh starved to death in ukraine but also
they would take food like soviet soldiers take it to moscow export it continue to sell it while
people were just straight up dying of starvation so five five wheat loss is something that was
on the books. So it’s the fact that you can shoot a person in Ukraine like in the head for stealing
food. So basically starving people would steal, steal is not the word I would use, but you know,
would steal the food they themselves grow to you know, not starve and to feed their families and
they will be shot for that. So yeah, so this was a very much like, you know, a genocide in every
sense of the world. And yeah, it’s not only that, like I said, it’s like mass deportation,
oppression executions there was like red terror period which was uh right after revolution
basically in october so that was the period when red terror uh was happening in ukraine as well
so people were just killed dragged down out of their houses shot for not being willing to be
part of soviet union russia yeah and that’s what’s coming they’re standing in the breach there and
that’s what’s coming so what is terribly ironic and yet beautiful at the same time is that the
group that holds the signs that say save the children is the group that supports and pushes
the um putin’s desires whether it’s one of our former presidents or whether it is
people in our government this faction is there right so what do we need to do what can we do
but listen to those voices but bring those voices here and say what is she saying right where is
this dragon all right who uh breathes the fire yeah where is this truth that we’re looking for
i guarantee it’s on the side of protecting the mothers and the daughters i guarantee you yeah
now he’s taking camps he’s making camps shame on us let me just say something to the americans
in the group i know there’s others from other countries but to the americans man it was our
experiment right this was handed down to us the people who created this freedom that you feel
and breathe and live in those people said you have to stand you have to stand
and if it meant going off to a foreign country to to help the cause then that’s what they did
that’s what they did freedom we need freedom not this tyrannical stuff is not is not new
is not new so um i hope to have uh anastasia um in interview form and i’ll bring those i’ll bring
those into you in uh short two minute clips like this letting her give her own straight up answers
and there is a direct link of course to our cave yeah our cave let’s bring up the first of the cave
tonight we’re going to go to the orphic fragments here’s that guy i’ve been blathering about for so
long auto kern thank you auto kern there’s your name um so here we go auto kern’s orphic fragments
number two please yes here we go i’m going to look at this is from diodorus siculus
Diodorus Siculus give us Diodorus’s picture please this is you know just a made-up representation
for all we know he looked nothing like this right but um here we uh here here we have his work right
um he’s writing history’s first century first century he’s writing in greek wonderful wonderful
stuff he’s trying to go back to the roots of the people that were migrating around remember we
talked about these migrations, these Bronze Age migrations. Tonight, we’re going to go one step
back to the prehistory, to the autochthonous people, the people called the Pulaskians.
And you’re going to be surprised to find out the things that you got from certain places you didn’t.
This is before Christianity. This is before Judaism. Yeah, this is before any of the
monotheistic religions before those things were kicking off well they had some in egypt too
right but before those movements within the mysteries kicked off we have these pelasgians
and we have these rights preserved within the language and i’m going to take you back to some
of the old language we’re going to go to the to the virgin right we’re seeking the virgin
yeah the maiden right yeah please so in this fragment what do we have here number four this
is from diodorus and he says ton de only non fasi twice pelaski kois gramasi that’s the words i want
you to hear pelaski kois gramasi yeah they say that linus um composed this the deeds of the
work on the deeds of dionysus and that he did it in the pelasgian letters in the pelasgian letters
yeah and he left it behind in his little his little memoirs yeah nice also orpheus orpheus
and pronapides yeah pronapiden ton homeron didascalon yeah pronapides the teacher of homer
oh nice nice so here’s orpheus and here they’re they’re using the pelasgian letters and you say
wait a minute pelasgian what remember i’ve been asking you to solve the question of the dragon’s
time right people are working on it nice job guys yeah yeah anya love it love it fish love it you’re
working on those things and tonight we’re going to have some little clues tonight we’re not working
with the orphic letters we’re working with the pelasgian letters and the pelasgian letters come
before come before everything for everything we’re talking pre-egyptian culture we’re talking pre
indo-european we’re talking about the basis the language the human language spread out through
the mediterranean and from which we’re deriving this right and this history yeah let’s go to the
next one please i want to start here now linus they say composed an account in the pelasgic
letters of the deeds of the first dionysus and of the other myth mythical legends and left them
among his memoirs and in the same manner use was made of these pelasgic letters by orpheus and
pronopides who was a teacher of homer great and a gifted writer of songs right notice i just want
you to see mentions leah medan talks about going to nissa where the ancient natives of the city
relate that dionysus was reared there yeah and that there’s this thing called a phrygian poem
yeah okay next text please this is the expression yeah in the pelasgian letters good i want you to
look at that pelasgian who are these people go down this then is the account of dionysius among
the greeks linus was the first to discover the different rhythms and song and when cadmus brought
from Phoenician, the letters as they’re called. Linus was again the first to transfer them into
the Greek language to give a name to each character and to fix its shape. Now the letters as a group
are called Phoenician because they were brought to the Greeks from the Phoenicians, but as single
letters, the Pulaskians were the first to make use of the transferred characters. So they were
called plastic okay you see what i’m saying so this is an old old old old not this guy get him
off there we’ll bring him back in a second this isn’t that’s a limnion uh steel anyway um this
pelasgian language that predates there’s there’s questions who are these pelasgians and what are
they doing now these these autochthonous people spread throughout from asia minor into greece
right here’s the sights nice map there look at they’re on the island of lemnos up there yep
off the coast of thrace right samothrace see samothrace there take it down if you were
sitting there on the beach in in thrace you can look and you can see samothrace there nice island
beyond that right beyond that where it’s no longer visible is that limnion and we have a
a Lemnian stele, and it has on it the characters that they were debating about. This is Lemnian.
We’re going to call it Lemnian, but long story short, it turns out it’s Pulaskian, and logically
it looks a lot like Etruscan. Yeah, it looks like the Pulaskians and the Etruscans are the same
people. Those of you who are learning dragon tongue, the Orphic letters can use this to help
you to sign for them. Okay. And let me just pull that up again. By the way, this is in
Boustrophedone, right? So for those of you saying, wow, tell me, does it go right, left, left, right?
Yes. The answer is yes. It goes both. It’s like a snake more than a cow walking around, but okay,
whatever they didn’t call it ophistrophodon yeah it’s a whooper snake okay next next slide please
how did the phoenician letters appear on the greek mainland the palace of cadmus if cadmus
is an historical figure has been discovered in thebes and may be roughly dated around 14 to 1200
bc and letters were found in it but they were not of semitic origin take it down that’s in the
Journal of American Journal of Philology right now we’re getting a philologist I’m going to quote
a few philologists here tonight because this is the stuff that turns them on this is all you do
you’re trying to figure out where’s languages come from that’s why anybody who forbids you
from speaking a language that’s a bad bad dude bad dude yeah needs to be stopped yeah um so we’re
talking early on 1600 right next slide please thank you Chewie now Linus they say compose an
account in plastic letters of the deeds of dionysus and the other mythical legends and left
them among his memoirs in the same manner whoops we’ve had this but please go on please go on yes
um here we go i wanted you to see here further further in there is a cave let’s just go to the
cave we’re walking around i’m sorry that was a little herky jerky but we’re walking around with
um the pelasgians and their religion and we’re going to their religious sites and we’re going
look at their gods um all the oomph that sound is a pelasgian sound isn’t that nice you see it
in things like chords so there are pelasgian roots all over the place in the greek world
in the greek world and they’re they talk about the pelasgians are all over the sources you can
go look them up right um uh and you won’t you’ll find them in historians you’ll find them in
playwrights uh from sophocles we have some great information from sophocles literally not yeah
isn’t that cool um anyway it looks like they were they were considered to be the ancestors right
they’re considered to be the um greek sometimes they’re described as greek yeah and they’re ending
up in a lot of old old old greek religion coming out we’re going to look at one that shocks you
tonight from the from the septuagint believe it or not it’s buried in the septuagint isn’t that cool
all right um bring up that next one here we go further in there is a cave circular in shape of
marvelous size and beauty just get the cult context going in your head for above and all
about it rises a crag of immense height formed of rocks of different colors for the rocks land
bands and send forth a bright gleam some like that purple which comes from the sea for the
entrance grow marvelous trees some fruit bearing others evergreen and all of them fashioned by
nature for no other end and to delight the eye take it off and to open it yeah to open it coming
from the side was the expression yes yes okay next same slide good now to this cave the account runs
Amun came and brought the child. Who is that child? That is Dionysus. You mean Dionysus is a
child of Amun? Yes, he is. And gave him into the care of Nyssa, one of the daughters of Aristeas,
and he appointed Aristeas to be the guardian of the child. He being a man who excelled in
understanding and self-control and all learning, the duty of protecting the boy against the
plottings of his stepmother Rhea, he assigned to Athena, who a short while before had been born
the earth and had been found beside the river triton good good that’s why we call her tritonian
nice we need to find a location and a place for this we need to zoom in with the language
we need just to let the language carry us to that place we’re keeping our hand on the rope in the
cave as we go through it as we go through it good next text yeah i’m not going to read all this i
I just want you to see when the valor and fame of Dionysus became spread abroad,
Rhea, angered at Amun, strongly desired to get Dionysus into her power.
Okay, I want you to realize there is a struggle going on and that you see the word Crete.
As for Cronus, the myth relates, after his victory, he ruled harshly over these regions,
which had formerly been Amun’s.
Okay, take it off.
yes the father of the first dionysus the father of the first dionysus is usurped by the saturn
yeah okay all right so that should put you in some context take out your everybody pull out
your augers now right right you know where we are sun moon and stars okay hit it with the next
please we’re running from time tonight go ahead yes since the libyans said to dionysus before
the battle that as the time when amun had been driven from the kingdom he had prophesied
that’s what i want you to see amun is the prophetic god there is a reason that that cult
is spread throughout the mediterranean and always has that oracular um current to it
always has that oracular current to it the dodonian prophecy that is so important to the
greeks right everybody goes to dodona right that’s just the way it is it’s one of the
big big oracles and um that’s pelasgian yes yes so you see the operation people say did this come
from egypt did this come from what about this element what about the phoenicians there were no
Phoenicians around. They only called themselves Phoenicians because of what the Pelasgians
were doing. And the name Pelasgian, as a classical philologist, looks like it comes from the word
for purple, the purple dye. Yes, yes, the purple dye. Do we have that? Bring us up. Yeah, Pelagium,
right right relating to the sea right pelagios in the greek we’re following the romans here right
sea muscles go back to that please see muscles look at that sea muscles follow the way down the
pages to roman numeral number two and look at b pelagium the purple color our pelasgians are
originally of the purple the phoenicians who take their gramata who transmit that gramata
to the greeks are calling themselves the purple people the purple people we’re talking pre-history
right pre-history is where this is coming from so don’t try to tell me how it is that some
antinomian got involved because he doesn’t exist for thousands of years yeah your christianity and
your judaism they’ve just been non-existent they don’t exist but the oracular saturnian religion
they’re promoting this chance to have ionic life this thing is very real and very much out of this
old prehistoric people please next slide wonderful egyptians i see you’re egyptian and i raise you
plastian palascos yeah look at the under a just look at the first word in greek
yeah
ah the seat of palaskian dodona look on the second line down i told you dodona was big right that’s
That’s Hesiod, by the way.
Look at Toursenoi.
And right away, you say, wait a minute.
The Pulaskians were the Toursenoi?
Yes.
Yes.
Wait, I know the Toursenians, also called by the Greeks the Tyrenians,
that they were those people that the Romans, with their Venus’s tongue,
called the Etruscans.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
So if you look at Etruscan, you’re gonna find out
it looks just like the old Plaskian, right?
Which scholars and classical philologists
will have sat around for decades, a century,
debate, two centuries,
debating what the origins of these words are.
Some people say, oh, it looks like it’s related to Thracian
and trying to trace it, right?
Where it comes from originally.
Yeah, and it always goes back through the river
the Mycenaean Greek right it’s one of the places that it just made its made its currents now give
us another yeah and Circe so coming to the Etruscans brings us to Italy and it brings us
to Circe and Circe the daughter of Helios Hyperion’s son loves steadfast Odysseus and
Boreagrius and Latinus oh wait a minute what Latinus that has the word Latin in it who is
faultless and strong also she brought forth telaginous by the will of golden aphrodite
why golden aphrodite that’s a cult title that’s the aphrodite who’s involved in the production
right and they ruled over the famous tersinians nice next next you see the cult is really the
cult is really what’s pushing and driving everything and this is the area you see the
the libyans in the south we have carthage there we have sicily where diodorus happens to be from
and the tyrrhenian power here this is this is a pulaskian power this is an early power in the cult
go ahead oh it’s gorgeous next please what are these people they are autochthon they’re of the
The Chthon. You don’t call their Zeus a Zeus. You call them a Chthonian Zeus. Yeah, a Chthonian
Zeus. Yeah, nice. Guess what? Yeah, guess what? It’s so beautiful. The language, it’s
just like amber. It just traps that precious bit of the past and just kind of keeps it
preserved for all time can never take this stuff away up next please yeah pelasgian and arian media
so let’s just look next slide the first dionysus was the son of amen yep and look at this little
tidbit right um some georgian scholars including these georgian scholars connect the pelasgians
with the Ibero-Caucasian peoples of the prehistoric Caucasus,
known to the Greeks as Colchians, right?
We’re going right back to the garden.
We’re going right back to Edom, where those four rivers meet.
And you’re saying, wait a minute, I’m doing this,
but I’m doing it in a way that comes through the Late Bronze Age,
but I know that this is actually 3,000 years previously.
yeah three to five thousand oh my goodness yes that’s where we are we’re seeing the focus come
through that medwa yeah please to blow it right to bring the end of our search to its culmination
right here we are in the cave and we’ve been looking for that source for that origin you
thought you thought that adam was a hebrew name it is not it is not neither is eve
and you say how can you say that how can you say that it’s contrary to the last 2 000 years of who
are yes it is but it’s a fact let me show you chewy hit him with a chart this is gonna blow
your mind look at this look at the linear b we have the latin that’s nice and then we have greek
isn’t this gorgeous who is this guy who is the adam way right who is the adam who is that adam
so when the civilian oracles stand up and they tell you that adam is greek and it was based upon
a religious practice each of the characters in his name represent the action of quartering
of quartering if you know adam you can quarter it’s north south east and west
and it goes back through the bronzes through it’s captured in the mycenaean linear b
be, which is where these people are. It’s why Amun is in Crete. Yeah, that’s why Amun is in Crete.
Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous. Nothing is the way you thought. Welcome to Amun’s cave.
Nothing is the way you thought. I’m offering you some of the most beautiful, distilled reality
that you can possibly make. And it drips from the ceiling of this cave of the Pulaskians,
the place where that virgin becomes the oracle. That’s why we’re stealing everybody. Yeah. Pirates,
man. Pirates get dragged into this, right? Oh my God. It’s gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous. So
So as we’re trying to look at Dragontown, we’re trying to see how to decipher it.
We need to get serious about its roots, and we need to see the connection
between the Orphic letters, the Pulaskian letters, and the performance of the mystery.
Dionysus is the son of Bacchus, is the son of Amun, right?
Bacchus is the son of Amun.
Yeah, yeah.
That oracle was a Bacchic establishment.
Khurene is not a native Greek word.
It turns out it’s Pulaskian.
So where do we go with the origins of Christianity,
which started with a man getting arrested in a public park
with a naked boy at 4 a.m. with stuff on his face,
screaming about being thirsty,
and no, I’m not a child trafficker.
How do we get to that point? It’s through this pathway, through this pathway. And how are we
going to find this place again? This is our history, right? There’s nobody here that doesn’t
share this history. This is human history. And we need to find it. We need to find it.
We’ve got people coming on. Do we have people in the gallery tonight? Yes, we do. We’ve got Rob.
i want to say a few words before we start in i see thonius and i see snappy and i’m waiting for
where where is is the gnostic informant we’re waiting for gnostic informant because he’s
going to announce something tonight he’s going to announce something so we’ll maybe give him a
minute to pop in come on come on neil if you’re not going to make your announcement i’m going to
make your announcements for you okay but that’s no that looks that’s i don’t want to do that
all right let’s start off with just a response to the material that we’re talking about with
the pelasgians rob you’ve got first shot what do you think about pelasgians and dionysus
my favorite part was uh in egypt i arranged you with pelasgian i really like that i’m gonna have
to learn how to say pelasgian correctly and i’m gonna use that one that was an excellent
presentation again that um i’m gonna have to catch up on uh you you’re on fire you know you’re on
fire at the minute and you’re hitting as hard with information because you know now there’s there’s
some there’s some way for it to go a beautiful info on the orphic for classmates i’m sure they’ll
appreciate that um i kind of like uh the aristeas part because if i’m right if i remember rightly
is the son of apollo and the father of that tail if i remember rightly and that that means just
little bits to me but for this to go all the way back to its roots in the link in the language and
to see that in the linear b is phenomenal and mind-blowing and rather conclusive in my opinion
fantastic fantastic um snappy your response i was really blown away by your lecture so the
pelasgians are something i’ve been interested in a while so a philosopher i love is this guy here
ludwig clogges he wrote a book that i’m reading called cosmogonic eros and he uses the pelasgians
as an example of sort of primordial culture and like returning to like a an original base for the
bronze age and then he connects that with the bronze age mystery rights in india and in other
places and i just wanted like there’s just so much cool stuff he talks about here about how
the scent the center part of of the plasgian society was almost taking care of the dead and
the rights for the dead they’d be buried under the stoves and the houses and right in the center
of the home and everything was centered around these cycles of death and rebirth and they would
wrap them in purple cloth it’s a really powerful stuff so we’re getting somewhere really interesting
fantastic fantastic and snap and uh cathodius cathodius give me your take on tonight i uh
thought it was amazing the the pelaskians being the root of the purple and finding their origin
of the language that the linear being from what i take it i think it’s amazing and uh i think that
they might hold the key to all the ingredients and how you said that almond is the father of
Dionysus blew my mind, and you said that Kronos usurped Dionysus’ first father, and it makes me
wonder if Amun was Oronos. The only Amun that I’ve read about is in the Hermetica, and you blew my
mind tonight. Fantastic. You have to love the fact that years later, people will come along
and take little bits of that and preserve it and protect it and pass it on like Abamon,
yeah and and um just uh let me let me just ask thonius you were you brought in oh some
psychoanalyst i think his name was jung jung you’ve been looking at some young does any of this
stuff um have to do with young at all what you’ve been seeing well uh from what i’ve what i’ve been
reading about young is that he from what i understand in the red book it it’s like he
is trying to mimic what zeus did he’s trying to go into the abyss and talk to nix and to know all
things and and it it’s it’s it’s kind of it’s kind of onto that i’m sorry i lost my train of thought
no that’s exactly that’s exactly what i meant right he’s putting it into don’t you don’t you
think he’s practicing the mystery i mean he’s he’s even getting responses about the future
and from other people who are telling him who are bringing him elements of the future that
are are shocking him yeah it’s the operation of the mystery uh love it snappy i mean love it
kathonius that you’re doing he even said that he got the scepter he went down there and he pulled
out the scepter from going into the abyss and talking to the oracle basically of night just
like zeus did in the daverni papyrus he tried to yeah yeah and now the question is was he doing
that because he was drawing on that reality right or was he doing it because he was reading it and
recreating it well we know with the with the boy that he was talking to at the
the young man that he was talking to at the um um who was inside the you know
place where they kept people they didn’t want running around um for whatever reason he was
talking about the future right he had never seen the this he didn’t know about the release of this
material he didn’t know about um what it meant within ancient religion yet it found him within
a person right right gorgeous love love it thonius snappy do we have any do you have any impression
of the more easterly working of the pelasgians through caucus and through you know is there are
we getting over do you want do you smell india any in any of this whoops i think you’re muted
oh definitely so when i when we’re looking at uh mycenaean culture you can compare a lot of this
to what’s happening in uh harappa in the indus valley and there’s a lot of key things like we’re
seeing the presence of the bulls we’re seeing the um the bull wrestling motif we’re seeing these
same horns in these horn figures and then we’re also seeing predominantly is that mother goddess
figure with the snakes you know and then we know that they’re both cultures are using cannabis
are using the mushroom and they’re engaged in this purple trade because we have traces of the purple
in harappa but they’re not producing it so they’re getting it from somewhere right and then there’s
also these seals that look a lot similar so there may be even a connection between uh the harappan
language and what’s going on with the uh the mycenaean gorgeous gorgeous and you know oh
there’s so much of a frontier there for people to figure out put it it’s like a puzzle to figure out
where the influences are coming from how the languages are being pressed on the civilizations
and you mentioned the the snake goddess right why is the snake goddess so prevalent right
i mean it seems like a strange thing but there you go you have it right and it’s gorgeous it’s
at the very center of the cult the use of these venoms yeah oh it’s a it’s amazing we’ll end up
with rob rob you have the last you have the last word i think i think somebody’s mic is on if you
guys can mute rob you have the last word you have the last word i want you to say something please
about anastasia anastasia about anastasia very educated as far as i could tell i was
very impressed with him with their abilities to um watch the messages as they came in as well as
engage in a quite a a deep engaging conversation and if i do that take some she she could answer
every question with eloquence and we’ve got quite a great deal about it i just won’t go to
the snake goddess though because i discovered something that i found profound that you know
the snake goddess and she’s holding the two snakes that’s that’s the image we all see what i found is
i found out is that’s the votive that’s the votive to the snake goddess the snake goddess doesn’t
doesn’t she’s she’s the snake goddess of course she’s in watch it but she hasn’t told him two
snakes and i found that very curious and then i’m going to go to father so you’re the father
of dionysus aren’t you and if gnostic informant was here he’d be all over you because he thinks
your response your your name and you’re responsible for quite a lot aren’t you through
history so i’ll leave you with them three comments all right you guys heard it here thank you for
coming and hope uh next week we’re gonna bust into we’re gonna have our fight club week right
so every season we’ll have one fight club so i’m ha uh there’s seven seasons people have been asking
is there a is there a beginning and an end to this yes there is right it’s believe it or not
it’s a narrative right it’s a song so there is and tonight next week we want to next
friday we want to have the fight club so i’m encouraging everybody who wants to step up to say
to send a message to say i am a child of heracles and i am unafraid of your tennessee law
yes okay uh thank you guys for coming tonight hail satan
thank you
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