Bible Study – S2E5 – Jesus and the Little Boy

Bible Study – S2E5 – Jesus and the Little Boy

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This study goes straight back to the garden of Gethsemane. Ammon Hillman plays a clip from a pastor who describes the place as a cemetery, where soldiers heard Jesus say “I am” and fell down. Hillman calls that story a fairy tale. The Greek, he says, is far simpler: the words ego eimi (ἐγώ εἰμι) are only the answer to the question, “Are you Jesus of Nazareth?” What follows is not a blast of divine power. The soldiers simply went around him and took him. The word they translated as fell, pipto (πίπτω), means to fall upon and arrest, not to be knocked down.

The harder claim turns on a single Greek word. When Jesus asks why they came with swords and clubs as if he were a robber, the word is lestes (λῃστής). Hillman says it does not mean a common thief. In the poem by Lycophron, which preserves the song of the prophetess Cassandra, the same word appears in talk of child abduction. His claim is that a lestes is a trafficker of people, and that Jesus, with a naked boy beside him, was asking whether they had come for him as if he were a trafficker. The boy, he notes, carried only a linen cloth, a sindon (σινδών), the same word used for a medical bandage.

Against the preacher’s picture of a dead boy crawling out of a grave as a zombie, Hillman offers the older reading. The garden points, in his account, to a blood-drinking female power and to the thirst-bringing serpent called dipsas (διψάς). He also reads the name Magdalene as a Scythian word tied to the root of magic, not as a place name from Hebrew. The episode ends with his bluntest claim, that the church, in his reading, was built around an accused human trafficker who stands at the center of its most famous story.

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Take me to that happy hour, never show me the girl I never met. I want it so bad. Where is that golden palace? Is that her destiny? I think she ran off with me.
are you in for it tonight tonight we’re gonna get back in our time ship and i’m gonna leave us right
in a little bubble in the bushes in the garden of gethsemane tonight we’re going deep chewy it’s
light speed hit it look i’m not cruel you know there’s no way to do this better than to take
along a child of god and to have them attempt to entice you to go into the fairy tale backyard
it’s usually in the back or it’s in the crypt right it’s a space that the early christians are
creating this mystery right it’s a place where we come back to a very serious topic today i’m going
to take you somewhere i’m going to take you right to get somebody right now we’re going right now
you’re going to love this but in order to get there i want to sacrifice right we need we’re
necromancers um and i’m assuming that you have your ears to hear and that you’re sitting on the
throne we are necromancers and this is how we function we’re going to bring this false reality
to you this fairy tale in the form of a dude of a dude what we’re doing is we’re sacrificing tonight
um reverend renner um his distinguished one um we’re looking at his work because he has had the
to you know the real courage to step forward and say who is this naked kid with jesus in the garden
of gethsemane so we catch we catch him there mr renner but we think that we’re going to get an
explanation i’ll tell you be careful we’re going to go behind the building or into the crypt
okay we’re going down there and there’s gonna be some funny things that go on let’s bring him up
let’s bring him up let’s uh let’s have a response to this fellow we’re going to do some little tiny
clips hit it Gethsemane was immense it covered nearly the whole slope of the Mount of Olives
what we call the Garden of Gethsemane was much more than just trees it was a cemetery
there were graves yeah first of all the name Gethsemane they’ll tell you right the first
thing he’s going to tell you. He hasn’t done it yet, but he will. He’s going to tell you that
this is from the Aramaic, and it means the place of the oil press. Well, no, if it’s from the Greek,
it means the pleasure stones. The pleasure stones, isn’t that a word for stones? This is a district.
This is a district in a park area where there are things like cemeteries, monuments. Yeah,
Wow. Nice. Love it. Anyway, and part of this is called the place. If it’s in the Greek, it’s the
place of the stone pleasure. It’s a place that we know that Jesus hung out. It’s a place that we
know that Jesus hung out. Okay. Let’s keep that. Let’s keep that in mind. Okay. Hit him again.
Bring him again. And Jesus came into the grotto to pray regularly with his apostles. And it was
there that jesus spoke the words i am he and the bible tells us in john chapter 18 that all the
soldiers who came to arrest him when they heard those words i am he they begin to do something
very strange all those soldiers begin to go backward and the king james version says they
fell to the ground okay so here we are we’re in the garden and all of a sudden a group group comes
up these are not regular forces yeah these are heavily armed members of the cohort yeah yeah now
there’s no indication of how many of them came um he drew from the cohort though to bring it so
we’ve got temple security we’ve got civic local civic forces and we’ve got um a crack group these
are the guys you send for the big bus anyway um so uh here they come here they come and pilots uh
judas has led them there fantastic now it’s gonna get a little bit dark from here it’s gonna get a
little bit dark from here he’s gonna tell us something happened these soldiers suddenly got
drowsy okay now we’re going behind the building yeah now we are come on kids yeah
you’ve got to know this you don’t know what his skill is he can tell you it’s because the ancient
greek says it’s that way and let me tell you something he is lying through his teeth let’s
just look at what the greek says yeah okay hit us another clip please the greek the words go
backward really means to wobble to stumble they lost their bearing and when the bible says they
fell it’s the greek word pipto which means to fall hard jesus released such a blast of divine power
when he said those words i am he which in greek literally mean i am yeah the um he set off wait
i’m just wait okay that’s when you realize it’s dark you know and you’re in the basement
you’re like what are we doing down here right how many of us have found ourselves in that position
right what are we doing here jesus led off of what jesus had a blast of what that’s what the
text says believe you because you said you do the greek that’s what the text says really really
let’s go to the let’s go to the john 15 please or 18. this is john 18. this is the text that
he’s talking about yep good look at starting at six hoss own apen out toys ego amy um that’s the
that’s the ego the ego amy is the response right so in the world of the basement the fairy tale
they will tell you jesus spoke out boom like a you know it’s kind of just magic everybody falls down
right it gets better just wait it gets better but that’s not what the greek says
that’s not what the greek says at all bring the creek up again what does it say ego amy why is
he saying ego amy saying i am because they asked him are you jesus of nazareth and he says because
it’s a it’s a crowd of a delegate of soldiers right this is a he they brought out the unit
that takes down the real bad guys they’re heavily armed right we’re going to see this jesus makes a
note of this he says something out of his own mouth out of his own mouth tonight we have first
hand evidence right we’ve been trying to establish a motive here for jesus and there are those of you
who have been saying you know it’s not things are not so bad right we have to understand here
that we can we can get rid of the religiosity but we can’t get rid of that core let’s look at the
core i have no arguments for you i have no opinions i have no you can quote me as saying
nothing that thou shouldst do or not do anything yeah here we serve the text baby this is the
museum we serve the text let’s look at what that text says john bring him up excellent thank you
so much abel phone ace top of piso hi episode yeah so they said are you jesus he said i am
and it says they went around to his back they circled him they went around him so he couldn’t
get away and episode they fell on him they attacked the greek uses uh for falling all the
time all the time the one enemy falls upon another you know so they surround him and they take him
they start to arrest him they grab him right and as they’re going for him jesus says let’s go to
the next text this is this is uh okay yeah this is the one from mark yeah so um yeah ah as they
go as they go so they’re around him and they’re getting they’re they’re you know the arrest is
being made the arrest is being made they’ve identified who he is and they’re taking him down
and what happens jesus responds to them right as they’re coming on to him he says what what have
you come out here with your swords and with your clubs that’s a military club right it’s a big
thing that’s that’s a big deal they came out with battering rams this time and flash grenades
right they came out and what did they what what did they say look at the the end of the first
line hoss hoss look at the two first words the next line epi lay stain go ahead and take it down
you’re coming at me as if you’re coming against or coming to arrest or coming to apprehend
elastis what is that what is that people like to translate it as robber robber but that doesn’t
make it that doesn’t quite make it there jesus says were you guys so heavily armed for what’d
you come out against me for you know would you look at your armed resistance would you come out
let’s look at the look at the uh translate uh look at the there we go um here’s the definition of
lace days right it’s from laidzo for those of you who are in greek right good and notice that um
they first give you rob robber or pirate right and you think to yourself wait a minute pirate
jesus is saying what you guys come out here so heavily armed like i’m a pirate
right well what does that mean well it’s especially somebody at sea so there’s some
kind of sea connection that’s where we’re getting pirate brigand buccaneer right buccaneer later
now you know where you get the word pirate from yeah but what kind of what are these shiver me
timbers these aren’t the guys that make johnny depp look good this is not that kind of a pirate
right these are sex traffickers should we bring up that same look at the very bottom used by lycophron
who is lycophron lycophron is the poet who is preserving the song of cassandra yeah the song
cassandra who is the bacchic sybil yeah wonderful wonderful and you’ll notice there in that
lycophron it’s okay you’ll notice there in that lycophron that um we have a reference to
child abduction yeah it turns out in antiquity i mean let me just lay this on you straight you
want to come the garden of the garden of grave delight here we are in this place take a whiff
around you know what you smell you smell groups of traffickers who will sail into a port jump
off the ship armed armed with enough force to overwhelm the local authorities and take kidnap
take prisoner um young men and young women boys and girls and if this kind of thing you know oh
why do they take them to take them somewhere and traffic them to sell them right um yeah to sell
them. It’s not very nice. It’s not very nice indeed. Yes, but this is the word, the laistes
is the word for this trafficker. And so when Jesus says, would you come out against me so heavily
armed? What do you think I am, a trafficker? The fact that there’s a naked kid standing next to him,
the fact that there’s a naked kid standing next to him, and that verb that’s used for accompany
when it says the naked boy was accompanying Jesus, that verb is the verb that is used of
soldiers and of slaves. Soldiers and of slaves. Yeah, there was that boy accompanying him naked.
Let’s hear what else he has to say about the… Go ahead. Jesus was declaring that he was God in
the flesh. And there was such a blast of power, it knocked all the soldiers to the ground. Eventually
they got up, they regained their bearings, and Jesus surrendered himself to them. And as they
walked out of the grotto, out of the cave, through this area, the Bible tells us in Mark chapter 14
verses 51 and 52 about something very unusual. It says, suddenly there appeared in the midst of them
a naked boy with a linen cloth who is the naked boy in the garden of Gethsemane who is that naked
boy in the garden of Gethsemane alas someone is finally talking about it nice job nice job
it’s taken us what is this 1400 years we solved it once a long time ago oh he’s a cousin right
sh he’s a cousin now okay so let’s let’s see this whole thing about the this whole thing about the
we’ll come back to the glory bomb in a minute don’t play that video the this we’ll come back
to the glory bomb in just a second but the blowing off of the feet you can see it’s not even in the
text right and if you’ll notice that translators since tyndale have been following this same path
so you can track this man mr renner’s education you get it down to his education about where he
came up with these ideas when he says i am and lets off the glory bomb causing all the soldiers
to fall around right and by the way that stuff he said about balance is not in that at all
it’s not there at all he’s making stuff up that’s why i’m saying these are lies he is making stuff
up there’s nothing to do with staggering in that greek period nothing they simply were around and
took custody of him right took him down yeah yeah it’s a bust right it’s a bust and they’ve got a
big unit out there this is fantastic okay hit him again who is the naked boy in the garden of
gethsemane why was there a naked boy and why was he carrying a linen cloth well the key is the
the words linen cloth. It is a Greek word which described a burial shroud. Well, all around the
grotto, all around the Garden of Gethsemane, there were graves, including fresh graves. This was a
dead boy. That’s why he was carrying a linen cloth or a burial shroud. The Jews buried their people
naked and covered them with that kind of a shroud. This boy was laying in his grave. And when Jesus
spoke those words i am he the same power that knocked 300 to 600 soldiers onto their back
apparently touched a dead boy that had recently been buried the boy came crawling out of his grave
with his linen cloth stumbles into the midst of the whole scene that’s taking place in the garden
of gethsemane or here we find the moment of jesus arrest okay so the if i got this straight the
fairy tale view is jesus set off a glory bomb the soldiers hit the deck and because they were close
to a fresh dead boy he crawled out of the grave i mean this is zombies does anybody else see
the zombies this man believes in zombies out comes this boy fantastic let’s let’s hit him
one more time this is just it’s a it’s overwhelming it’s overwhelmingly bad when
this man takes you into the back okay and he starts this act right um you don’t know that
his greek is wrong it is plainly openly yes okay let’s give let’s finish him off give him one more
that was another miracle a periphery resurrection and when the soldiers and the religious leaders
saw the resurrected boy they said somebody get that boy because they didn’t want news of another
resurrection in that very moment jesus power is simply immense it shows up all the time and today
i want to talk to you about jesus power showing up in your life yeah and that’s how it starts that’s
how it starts show me on the dolly yeah that’s how it starts did you hear how he’s he’s going in
there in the end for the oh he’s going in this is the hunt right he’s pre he’s praying on you
and he’s going to come in i want to show you jesus power wait a minute you just made up
a bunch of nonsense right even what he said about the scene down right it is not a burial shroud
it is not the word for burial shroud it’s the word for linen strip it’s just a piece of linen cloth
that’s all it’s a piece of linen cloth yeah and if this guy had had five minutes to read some galen
he might see how these linen bandages work yeah yeah the kid runs off naked jesus is calling
himself a child sex trafficker the people that show up oh by the way for those of you who want
a little more context by the way with the child sex trafficking in antiquity there we go with the
child sex trafficking in antiquity um sometimes it can get kind of formalized and when the pirates
show up you have a certain number of you know teens that they need to be given yeah and that
keeps them from coming back then they only come back once a year right and the mothers in the in
antiquity are singing about these things yeah about how terrible it is you know to be taken
and those captive and to have your child ripped from you in order to enter into this garden of
delight you know where these kids are sold off yeah it’s a big um abduction and abduction for
the purposes of sexual abuse is a very prominent industry in antiquity so when jesus calls himself
a trafficker he’s noticing as you see he’s pointing clearly pointing out you’ve got the
weapons right you brought the specialized unit right and this guy says 600 right because he
thinks when the greek says he went to the cohort it think he thinks he got every person in the unit
it. No, he didn’t. And they didn’t fall down because of the glory bomb. Where don’t we have
some, look, I, we tried to make a, you know, representation of this thing, hit it. Should
we see if it works? Fantastic. I don’t know if that captured it. I don’t know if that captured
it. And before we move on to our serious ending, I do need a moment of subliminal Zane. Do you have
Just a moment of subliminal, Zane.
There we go.
Fantastic.
You can check that out later.
By the way, thank you, Zane, for the contribution of all your music.
I hope you like what I’m doing with it.
Thank you very much.
What do we do with that glory bomb, right?
So we’re in a situation now where, look, guys, we have an option.
I can’t keep taking you back to these scenes and exposing you to them.
without it seriously affecting us all, right? So we have to understand, we have to get it clear
that we are talking about a time and a place and very specific things, very specific historical
events. And the only thing that we can trust is the language. The language preserves this.
The language preserves what the actual statement was that Jesus made.
He said, you’re arresting me.
He said, well, you’re arresting me like I’m a pirate of people, you know, like I’m a sex trafficker.
So known accomplices, prostitutes and accountants arrested in a public park at 4 a.m. with a naked boy.
Armed resistance was provided.
so we think we’ve come to the place that Jesus regularly hangs out where he does his biz you
don’t see him doing any carpentry do you right but he is hanging out with prostitutes and accountants
with naked boys in places that we know are the necromancers hang his place to hang all right
he’s waiting there for the dawn he’s waiting there for the dawn you know the you know the
process of trading children in antiquity is directly connected with cult mystery. Are you
surprised? You shouldn’t be. Jehovah has his Ganymede, right? We understand this. So we provide
Jesus. It looks like we’ve got enough evidence to say that there is a direct association between
Jesus, a.k.a. the Christ, and the sex trade, first century, first third of the first century.
Yeah, good stuff. Good stuff. It’s important to me because you trust me. It’s important to me to
give you the most accurate information possible. So when I’m showing you those words, that’s why
i’m trying to give you the the philological background and to show you hey see this
it’s just translating here this right because i have nothing to sell you now reverend reverend
glory bomb we’ll just call him reverend glory bomb who has you know for those of you say it’s
too much you’re being too too harsh on reverend glory bomb no no no we raid these basements
And when we find the evangelicals and the Catholics, when we find the Presbyterians and the Baptists, and we find the Free Church of Christ and the Holy Immaculate Nationalist Association of we’re going to take over the world, when we find them taking people into places where they’re taking advantage of them, it’s our duty to stand up to that.
yeah so so far what we’ve got i wanted to show you a little bit of the prophecy
of cassandra and i wanted you to see there’s a lovely um there’s some lovely imagery there
and some talk of what you can do with your daughters you can dedicate your daughters to
the temple and they’ll be protected we as members of the community who worship hecate and protect
those virgins. We take up weapons, stones, bows against those pirates who we catch with our
children naked. It turns out the chief pirate is the son of God. Get your hands off him. Parents
were saying, get your hands off him. All right. Stop touching my children. That’s what people
told jesus he was like don’t scandalize me yeah maybe that’s what it is when the priest is i just
want to finish with gautier when the priest at his ordination sees the vampiris and knows the beauty
he gains a perspective and he can never go back his god’s righteousness turns into oppressive pain
yeah because he’s seen her and he knows yeah galtier thank you tonight i’ve taken up 30
minutes of your time and i believe that that’s all the time that i will take up tonight i want
to make an announcement before we go i want to make an announcement that friday we will be having
our fight club where only the sons of heracles will be allowed to enter i’ve told chewy you
don’t get in without your wig and your Victoria’s Secret, right? We should bleep that out. Should I
not? Yeah, here he is, right? Heracles. You love him? You love his gown? Look, there’s the queen.
There’s the queen. There she is. So you don’t get into the fights unless you come in proper kit.
And we will be taking what the movement that we’ve been, the forward motion that we’ve been
accumulating we’re going to take that we’re going to drive that into the form of the practicing the
working of the mystery yeah we’re going to expose expose that to people so they can see right let’s
get back in the ship we’ve had this is enough of Gethsemane right this is enough we’re there we
see Jesus he’s calling himself a child trafficker right not only that but remember guys he shows up
with the stuff, the goop all over him. They don’t know what that is. What’s he been doing with that
kid? What’s that rag for, right? They don’t know these things, right? It always comes back to that
Dracaina, that Dracaina that our prophetess Cassandra talks about, who bears that venom.
It always comes back to her. Cassandra says she has the dipsass. She calls her, she calls her the
the very same title of jesus’s anti-venom that he didn’t get on the cross right that’s hers
that’s hers thank you magdal the city and maga that’s fantastic you see there’s a there’s a
brighter we’ve been looking at jesus the child trafficker with his naked boy right but there’s
a much brighter light around it that is divine, that is divine. And that’s her. The fact that she
is controlling from the back room, right? It’s amazing. It’s magic control. Love it. Mary the
Magdal. Yeah, fantastic Scythian word for Magga. Yeah. Now, wait a minute. You thought Magdalene
was from this in the Hebrew. No, it’s not. Yeah, yeah, it’s not. You mean I shouldn’t have studied
Hebrew in seminary? No, you shouldn’t have. You’re wasting your time. Yes, it’s all in Greek, bro.
Just read it. Read it. Pirate. And realize that every time you go to church and every time you
take that communion and every time you give your attention to that power, you are propping up
history’s most popular child sex trafficker i think that’s it let’s call it there but before
we do let’s take one more look at the image let’s take one more look at the image of where we’re
getting all of this viper venom this dipsass go ahead hail satan and if you can avoid the pirate
who sells children and any of his followers show me the girl i never met i wanted so bad
Where is that golden palace?
Where is that horse called destiny?
I think she ran on

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