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Ammon Hillman answers the question against a clip of a Bible scholar saying the drug reading is preposterous, and the whole exhibit is the lexicon. Christos (χριστός) leads through the pharmakon entries where the dictionary lists the potables, the sprinkles, and then the enchriston next to the epichriston, the chrism that goes onto the surface and the more aggressive chrism pressed beneath it. Euripides has Phaedra ask whether the cure is a christon or a drinkable, dividing the drugs by how they are applied, and in the medical texts the same word names the ointment rubbed into the eye. The Greek shows the word doing pharmaceutical work centuries before the gospels used it as a title.
Gnostic Informant carries the argument into the text the other side ignores. PGM IV instructs the reader to wrap a naked boy in linen and speak the formula Iao Sabaoth Adonai, the same incantation sequence the gospels put in the mouth of the crucified man, and the linen is the sindōn (σινδών) that carried the purple. On the dating question the physical evidence is set next to the absent one: Nestor’s Cup, an eighth-century clay cup that quotes Homer at the time Homer lived, against a Moses whose name first appears only in Greek writers around 300 BC. The Haifa professor and the Megiddo and Elephantine records drive the same conclusion, that the text on the ground dates to the Hellenistic library.
The close is the method against the assertion. Against the claim that christ only means anoint, the response is a table of words doing different jobs in different languages, and the exposé of Dan McClellan’s religion dissertation that samples three Latin uses of religio while leaving hundreds of others out and misspells the Greek threskeia (θρησκεία). The point is that the surrounding culture shared the same magical and drug vocabulary, and that the words gospel, evangelion, and soteria were the efficacy and the salvation of a compound drug before they were packaged as theology.
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Rattlesnake Venom hits. From Edea’s lips. Dragon Queen cup of fire. Black arrows darken the sky. The order of the rose. With the bows and arrows. Horses ride in full stride. The bolts hit the mark every time. Psychotropic logos. You know who’s in the right.
With the giggling smile
Produce the flowers
With the pow
I give you my blood
Do you have the blood of the dying god
Sell fire
Put the stars in your eyes
Rub it in
The man who’s laughing
I am being
Drink hallelujah
From Aphrodite’s lips
Epos
Purple juice coat
Gorgeous
Make your face melt
Terror cards dealt
Ancient songs are cosmic spells
Wave the magic wand from overhead
Simon says
Welcome back to Lady Babylon.
This is more Bacchic orgy.
I love this.
Oh, God, you know we’ve been busy this week,
satanic congregation.
You know that we have.
I have the stuff for you tonight.
I have the stuff for you tonight, and what I’m going to do, I’m going to say a couple of things first.
First of all, I want to give a welcome to all of the new persons who have come to Lady Babylon.
I appreciate it, and I respect the fact that you’re giving me some of your time, some of your time.
So I will be direct and not waste it.
Thank you for coming tonight.
i want to say a just give a shout out um uh to the those who bring us the sacrifice tonight
because that’s what the that’s what the theme is here that’s what the theme is here i so
love this i just want to tell you okay let’s stop let’s stop let’s let’s stop pretending
okay as the time machine rolls let’s stop pretending and let’s just say hey it is what
it is you know it is what it is um and for those of you who are new and who want to know what is
this thing tonight we’re bringing it to you in the form of the christ i am going to show you for
the first time it’s sacrifice oh god it is it’s what you you satanic congregation you love it
okay i’ll stop look i’m gonna be direct and just tell you it’s the sacrifice you love it i know
It’s the soul sucking. It’s why you come is to suck the soul. I know it is. I know it is. And I know that taste. I know that taste. There’s nothing more invigorating than that. And tonight we have company. Tonight we have company.
Tonight, we’re going to welcome a boy named Dan, and Dan is going to give us some of his take on life and whatnot, and we’re going to see if what he’s saying is, you know, accurate or, you know, I just want to bring, come on, Dan, come on in tonight.
this is let’s not get hostile if you’re gonna understand christ dan right and i’m gonna bring
it in for all the evangelicals for all the evangelicals out there i’m gonna show you the
christ tonight tonight i’m gonna show you the christ and it’s not gonna be what you thought it
was and your world is gonna be different and it’s gonna be painful if you’re sitting there and you
can feel it you can start to feel that pressure wave you know buckle up because it’s coming
it’s coming fantastic oh let’s bring it let’s bring it hey jesus what’s he doing in that with
that oh god um i’ve got a couple of clips i’m going to start with gnostic informant will join
us later we’ll join us later and we will proceed with some discussion but what i’ve got for you
night for all the satanic congregation okay come on everybody off everybody off get off get off
get off the time machine and let’s go back to a time when you could banquet on a soul
oh god bring it to us go ahead and open it up shoei let’s get the first boom first clip first
clip nope there we go hit it start charts right what is the christ what is the antichrist what
is the christ if you have to know the antichrist you have to know the christ right all right let’s
see it it’s a greek word for for applying a drug for eyes that’s what the christ means in greek yes
the incredulity on the face of this podcast host is warranted because that is pure and utter
nonsense all right wasn’t that fantastic did you like the degrees on the wall that’s dan and
everybody give a hand give a hand to dan because he’s stepping up he’s stepping up and he’s going
to defend he’s going to show you tonight in the arena he’s going to show you exactly what his
skills have enabled him to do so around around for around for the warrior dan thank you dan
give me the next one from the verb to be stung by the gadfly so as with many words in many languages
the verbal root in ancient greek can mean more than one thing overwhelmingly it refers to rubbing
with some kind of sticky fluid of some kind either after bathing or for some kind of ritual purpose
or something like that so to anoint be anointed anointing something like that is going to take
up the majority of the real estate for the occurrences of this verbal route however it
can refer to the sting of a gadfly but that is overwhelmingly in the minority of occurrences
of this verb and it’s limited to classical and later greek lyrical poetry
did you did you taste that can everybody just can we relish this for a minute look before we proceed
come on man you know let me take the mask off you know here we are i’ll put the axe down here we go
um first of all you have to admire the distinguished uh you know confident self-confident
boy this is a self-confident person i’d be willing to say that that is a form of compensation you see
i’ve played this game before and i’ve given conferences and when i gave them in in england
they said the london times said this research is the last wild frontier of classics so i’ve been
there i’ve been there and i know and it’s a way of compensating and this is typical for bible
scholars dan is a bible scholar all those plaques on his back wall in that prop up his bravado
all of those plaques are decrees and bible studies um classical philologists laugh they laugh at the
level of performance that bible studies are able to generate because people i just i’m gonna tell
this now i’m gonna give it and i promise tonight i’m gonna do it dan i’m gonna do what um um dan
needs to be done he needs to be shown um the technique and what we’re talking about is
philology here um bible scholars study theology they usually get a couple of semesters of greek
and then they get like a semester of an intermediate reading where they look at let’s
look at john right and then maybe a letter of paul in there and then all of a sudden um they’re
shipped off to the theology department and given their hoo-ha now how do i know all of this because
i used to teach at seminary and when i taught there i increased enrollment from five different
dioceses yes yes and how was i able to do that because i was a classical philologist and i know
what um training is classical philologist when dan was sitting in theology um almond was sitting in
greek reading greek and that’s really the issue tonight right these are this is notice that this
is a greek term i’m bringing you right christos what is that christos what is it what is it and
dan says preposterous so let’s see dan please um this is such a great form and people we love dan
um let’s give him another let’s give him some bit another couple of chances at the wisdom and let’s
see what we can pull out of it go ahead jewie give him the next one which has anything whatsoever to
do with early jewish or early christian literature not the septuagint not the new testament not the
early greek literature the notion that you can just assert that sense for any given occurrence
just because it happens to be in the lexicon is strong’s concordance nasa means to deceive
levels of amateurishness amateur amateur you see what that is that’s an amateur okay so remember
what’s the context here i have told danny jones danny jones i had the greatest day of my life
with danny jones and danny jones said well god i’ve how many times have i told him christ we’re
back are we back to be fantastic that was something i had to really work up going you and i
had something going and you didn’t realize that i realized you were gone right oh i’ve done that
before um here we go are you ready here we go so what i’m doing is look people i’m going to tell
tell you straight up i told danny jones and as many people as have seen this now i told him that
christ is a drug term yeah it’s a pharmaceutical term right and what we’re going to do is we’re
going to watch dan dan we’re going to watch him now step in and say there’s a difference
between this person and this person this person’s a christian so the word they’re using
it doesn’t apply to their neighbor or their contemporary sources, right?
It’s very amateurish, if you will.
Yeah, good word.
Good word, Dan.
You nailed it.
Hit the last one.
Neither the word istros, gadfly, nor istromania occur at all in the New Testament or in early Christian literature.
This has absolutely no relationship whatsoever to the title Christos or to the verbal root Rio.
this person is just making this all up all right all right so here we go are
you ready okay so um look by the way by the way Dan’s you’re you’re I can hear
modern Greek and what you’re saying which is seminaries do this because they
do not teach Greek well but you know I was telling everybody Dan that in school
um that’s what we do all the time you you got to read all the text in you
can’t say that you’re a translator of Greek if you only spend the time that you spend
on a little bit of New Testament, a little bit of Septuagint, and all of a sudden, you
know, all of the experts around you and your environment, Dan, because Dan, when you’re
reading this Greek, there are all of these great, great, great works that are being written
in Greek that shine tremendous light, Dan, that shine tremendous light on all of the
the documents that are in their environment, because this is what classical philologists do,
Dan. We don’t need theology, right? It’s a science. A reason is the number one thing, Dan. So watch
this. This is what I’m saying to you people. We’re done with clips, right, Chewie? This is what I’m
saying. You don’t know the difference between Dan and me. You don’t know the difference. He says,
it’s this way i’m saying it’s this way who who who can tell who can tell well we know your reason
we know you’re oh did somebody want me to spank oh now i’m a slave i’m a slave to you satanists
oh i love this come here come here come here you know here let’s just just pull down dan just pull
them down just a little bit just a little bit oh it’s okay see how flinchy flinchiness let’s go
oh god you got the bucket thing going on right from the beginning okay so before we put that
up now here i’m just going to drop the bomb at the beginning of this whole thing and you can just
listen to this tune out and walk away and still receive the same level of satisfaction right this
is finishing during dessert you ever finish during dessert oh god this is it here we go
here we go are you ready oh oh oh what is the problem dan the problem is is uh you’re not
looking at the sources right you’re not looking at ancient medical sources you’re not looking at
any of the contemporary lit i know you’re not because i can tell i can track you from the way
that you handle greek i can track you ready are you ready dan okay pull it up give dan it here
we’re giving dan the pharmacon are we gonna give dan the pharmacon here you go here it comes it’s
a drug dan look at the top it’s a drug whether healing or noxious so who do they give us now
what are you guys looking at here by the way this lexicon i saw you use the lexicon dan it was like
watching a person pick up a hammer for the first time or something um yeah the authoritative you
know this is not the authoritative text this is a tool that the victorians developed those great
classic anthropologists from 1850 right this is them this is alice in wonderland baby so you got
to respect it and how do you use this tool you got to walk through the sources if you’re walking
the word through the sources you can see how it is used over time and you can trace its semantic
drift you can see what happens to it oh it it’s a history it’s a history and it’s oh it’s so
vibrant watch the drugs here people are you ready here comes the bomb look at paragraph number two
healing remedy or medicine right in homer in homer give me the next slide is this that blown up watch
this people boom oh are you ready mostly applied outwardly and then he gives a whole bunch look at
this gorgeous greek here oh my god epithet say far maha oh god look oh it’s just i don’t know there’s
you know there’s a charm there’s a charm there’s a charm you know somebody’s out there right now
making video video about um uh something i don’t know something i said i don’t know uh it’s probably
not relevant but they’re making it and it just makes me wonder how do you justify if the language
that you write in ancient hebrew it’s got 8 000 unique words 8 000 how do you compete against
Greek that’s got somewhere between 500,000 and 1 million to 1.5 million they’ve estimated. You
know, you can’t count that kind of thing. You can’t count that thing. Your vocabulary,
that’s reaching for the stars, baby. That’s reaching for the stars. That’s why. Do you see
how amazingly superior ancient Greek is to the Anglo-Saxon garbage that we have to deal with,
that our brain is stuck in. Do you see it? I can’t get 1.5 million words. I can’t even comprehend.
How do you get that much? What kind of concepts explode in your brain? Oh, I love it. I love it.
Let’s relish it. He’s still here. Dan, get over here. Get over here, Dan. Bring that second one
up again. Okay, Dan, are you ready? Dan, pay attention. Look, Dan, look what kind of drugs
we’re talking about in this one. Oh, look to the end of the one, two, three, four, fifth line down.
Are you going to see, Dan? Pharmacon Christon. Oh, my God. Christon. Pharmacon. What is it?
What is it? Drug Christ. What is it? Drug Christ. We’ve got that passage. We’ll show it to you
before we do. That’s Euripides. Oh, right. And Dan says, now, wait a minute. Wait a minute.
if Euripides used it, it cannot be used by a Christian the same way because there is a wall
of separation. Only in your false reality, Dan, does something like that exist. Think about this,
Dan, for a minute. Think about it. Think about it. Classicists sit around and they study all
the texts and they study how the texts influence each other. Do you know of all the thousands of
authors that we have, Dan, of all the thousands of texts that we’ve got, Dan, do you know how many
of those are walled off and considered, oh, maybe out of time and space? Are they in a different
dimension? You’re in a fairy tale world, Dan. Look, Dan, look at Jesus Christ, Dan. Look at him on
that next line down, en Christon. Look at the word following, epichriston. Do you know what
The difference is, Dan, you would if you read the medical text.
But Dan doesn’t read medical text.
Dan says he knows Greek, but he does not know Greek.
And you’re sitting there in the audience and you don’t know.
Dan can put on a face and can sit there and project to you confidence.
And a guy like me can hear him.
And now he’s full of it, right?
No, he’s full of it, right? Preposterous, preposterous. How many academics do conferences
that I go to where they use preposterous, right? That’s the disease of theology. That’s the
academic disease of theology. It really just takes up all the space in the student’s brain,
and they can’t grow with the Greek. God, I love it. Is this getting hot? Is this getting hot?
starting to get like oh dan just hang in there with me dan i love it you love it you know what
i mean you’ll learn to love it let’s go to the next um to that very same source i just want to
make sure that we we gleaned everything oh yeah oh look he’s gone at the bottom for those for those
who are curious at the bottom he’s got the different types of drugs in greek you got
cataplaston you got poleton you got epipaston those are things you sprinkle on right you got
epichristone as opposed to the enchristone this epichristone you’re going into the surface like
with your thumb and somebody’s eye right um increase there’s an incrisation actually going
beneath the surface there’s a it’s a more aggressive form of the application of the drug
um how you know um we can do a lot with with whips and you know stuff like that but this is bucket
baby this is jesus in his earliest form right go um hit the next one chewy look at this people now
um remember what dan said right there is absolutely this is just absolutely crazy there is
no connection between christ and drugs that’s because dan has never read the text dan i’m so
sorry. Those degrees, those degrees, right? It’s a Bible institute. Okay. Look at this. Look at
the Epichristos. I love this. Smeared on, right? Painted, right? Give me the next one. There’s a
companion flower there. I love that. They don’t need to see that one. And here’s the Enchristos.
i just want you to see it people look here is the word christ danny jones please look at this word
you can see it in the greek and it says in christ station and it’s something that you rub into
somebody and where do you rub it look at the greek in the blue it’s in the blue ace
oh isn’t it greek is so sexy ancient greek well greek is not ancient greek greek ancient greek
so it’s got this kind of boom boom boom you know what i mean you’re at that you’re at that uh uh
what do they call those raves or whatever yeah um what is the ace of thalmus into the eyes
into the eyes dan i know you didn’t read any of these texts dan you can take it down i know you
didn’t read any of these texts dan that i’m you know showing you references to i know you haven’t
dan and i know you haven’t read authors that are contemporary with the new testament people like
diascortes dan do you know that diascortes talks about christ dan did you know what he does of
course he’s talking about christing because it is a pharmaceutical operation first christ
dan was a woman and she is the genius who figured out the mystery oh god dan does that hurt you does
that hurt you dan oh oh let’s see it you they don’t they don’t trust me they don’t trust me
i want to say something a couple of things a couple more things um as we kind of as we kind
of establish the christ right what is the christ you have to also realize please realize everybody
out there and i’m giving you this because a lot of people here have given their time so for this
so i want to honor you are you are you ready um that first christ is a woman and she christs
herself in order to enter into a state of mania and then proceeds to intoxicate um people around
her to force them to enter that state’s active active possession active possession fantastic
okay let me get to the next one i want to i want to give them the right hook here here comes the
right hook dan please hang in there dan i know it looks bad and i know i just showed you a reference
to a text that talks directly about putting those in the eyes but you know dan there’s a guy
diascortes in the first century he’s got it all there dan um you can find that sometimes you want
you can go to lady babylon you can look back because i’ve given references to diascortes
and that kind of thing i know you don’t read them i know you don’t read paul vagina i know
you don’t read galen you may say galen but you don’t read galen um i know that for a fact sorry
but it’s second sophistic brother and i can tell um what is this here this is the enchanted potion
or filter right this is the magic side of the pharmacon and the wall that dan wants to erect
and this is what all bible scholars do right um the bible is special it is the
inherent word of god and it is special the torah that is special right the new testament that is
special. And these things cannot be dealt with in the manner that all of the other bits of the past
can be dealt with. It’s a special attitude. I’m going to erect. They may have done that,
but we certainly didn’t. That’s the same attitude, Dan, that they gave me at my dissertation.
The head of the department said, the Romans just wouldn’t do such a thing. Just wouldn’t do such
you think dan there’s thousands of pages of the romans doing just such things and so i’m afraid
to have to tell you this but jesus was a drug user and he is christing his own eyes oh god how’s he
getting that stuff there remember dan in the garden when the naked kid was with jesus when
he was arrested for him remember he had the purple bandage on his you know the the medicated
advantage let me say it put it that way on his yahoo right and jesus is it being administered
the rights having the purple through the impregnated linen uh under the pressure of
the ejaculation of that naked kid right that is the jesus christ who has the drugs on board
who is able to enter into the mystery.
You mean this is all chemical mystery?
Of course it is.
Of course it is.
Look at the words, okay?
You’re saying, no, you’re still a nut.
And let me tell you something, the word gospel.
How about if we just look at gospel?
The gospel, you know what the gospel is?
It’s a word the doctors use.
Wait, what?
The gospel is medical term?
Yeah.
And guess what?
It’s way older than the Christian usage.
The thing that you call the Christian usage, it’s way older, and it’s been used over time.
What does it mean?
It means the power of bringing health that the concoction has.
So you have compound drugs and their gospel, their evangelion or their epangelion.
They use both.
That’s the efficacy of the drug that you’re taking.
That’s the gospel.
Oh, really?
What is salvation?
what is salvation salvation is the step you enter once you have the drugs huh okay fantastic and you
mean there are people who are using the terms just like that when jesus christ is walking around
when jesus christ dan is walking around and he’s you know he’s like with that kid he’s in the garden
have guessed something that kid’s naked he’s got that bandage around his penis and he says oh my
god the drippy stuff is disgusting right what is he’s got that drippy stuff on his face well
it’s not the you know it’s not the cleanest operation you know what i mean um orgiastic
or cult rights um that are involved with the mystery are always messy right there’s always
purifications and whatnot that have to be done um the baptisms right those are about dyes those
are about dyes did anybody know that did anybody know that mary was 12 years old she was auctioned
off and that her vagina was full of the burning purple yeah um that’s that made it into the
apocryphal stuff yeah we got a midwife there and everything everybody check it out i’m not kidding
it’s all there um right so anyway back to the let’s get dan back up on his feet come on dan
stand with me dan let’s look at a couple more sources brother let’s look at this here’s the
i just wanted you to see that the drug is a dye or a paint you know these things that
they’re putting um the pigments that they’re putting in the drugs um those are the very
same pigments that they’re using to die so um you know it’s not like they differentiate
baptism is that medical process oh god it’s gorgeous isn’t it go down to the next one we
only have a couple of your people tonight watch this dan watch this you’ve got a pharmacon a drug
of salvation so dave yes now you didn’t know this existed dan right he didn’t even know what
christ was this morning when he woke up he didn’t know what a christ was evangelicals across this
planet they didn’t know what christ was mormons jehovah’s witnesses all of them they didn’t know
what a christ was now they know christ is a drug and that drug is the way of salvation
it’s the way of salvation it’s the pharmacon soterias but he didn’t know that dan didn’t
know that give him give dan that next text i want dan here this is vitamins dan just be still this
This is going to hurt a little bit, a little pressure, a little pressure here, Dan.
Just bear with me.
Try to relax.
Try to relax.
Are you ready?
This is a Christ reference.
Dan, look, here’s a Christ reference.
Here he is, you know, Christon.
There he is.
Hi, Jesus.
Now, this is from Euripides.
This is from Euripides.
And who’s Euripides?
He’s a tragic playwright.
And what is he doing?
When I say tragic playwright, I don’t mean like somebody who went to college to be able
to do this kind of stuff or anything like that.
No, no, no, I’m not talking about that.
This guy is the son of a root collector
who is involved in supplying all the drugs to the cults, okay?
And he’s riding this in a cave,
and he has in the mouth a Phaedra.
It’s okay, don’t worry about who Phaedra is for now.
He says,
He says,
what kind of drug is it that you got? Do you have a Christ, or do you have one of those potables?
They’re distinguishing between drugs based upon how they’re used. Those potables, everybody drinks
them, right? The Christ, everybody knows what you do with the Christ. No problem, no problem.
Keep going. Now, notice that you have not seen anointing once, right? Because that’s the trash
lot heap right don’t go there wait you just stay with the greek people stay with the greek here’s
mark 16 18. what does jesus say in mark 16 18 he says you’re going to raise up serpents and
when you drink the thana simon it’s not going to hurt you when you drink the thana simon what
are jesus’s people doing they’re drinking drugs drinking drugs dan you didn’t realize that jesus
was a drug fiend dan he’s walking around with a title that says i’m a drug fiend maybe you know
you’ve got to ask christians just ask him straight up do you think jesus was the only christ that
ever existed do you think he was the first do you think he just popped on the scene and fairy tale
and there he is boom boom i’m a christ you’re what nobody knows what that means because it’s the
first friggin time any of us have ever heard it where’s that little kid where’s john where’s john
where’d he go people keep saying so i want to correct this he’s so bad what is that are we dead
are we dead oh god oh god i stepped on the wires oh i’m sorry chewy oh that was terrible
thank you for your patience thank you for your patience um we’re getting through though we’re
getting through and this week was all about getting through and i’m i’m really glad that
i was able to do it and i want you people to see i want you people to see so look i told you the
name christ it’s about drugs now i just pulled out all the drug um uh related material showed
you the christing and different kinds of christing now you know why there’s an antichrist right which
isidore says is almond which is cool but um there’s a way um there’s a there’s a way to see
the antichrist now right what is the antichrist it’s an antidote to the christ that’s all it’s
an antidote to the christ it’s why jesus the christ needed that naked boy you could not have
had the garden of gethsemane if you did not have a naked boy that naked boy was the source of the
antidote which he is ejaculating into jesus’s mouth through a linen wrap that is impregnated
with the burning purple and that’s why when luke says i don’t know he’s got this stuff it looks
like he’s got sweat like blood you know it’s that dark color it’s because he’s involved in the right
but it’s drippy and slimy it’s not the it’s um um it’s not uh uh obviously it’s something that he
arrived at um from struggles and you know etc etc i don’t need to let you know the finer details of
what jesus was doing to that naked boy that he was arrested with there’s no reason for me to talk
about that dan doesn’t want to hear that kind of stuff um when dan comes up and he says look i’ve
got five books, and these five books all say the Septuagint was originally written in Hebrew
for this reason and that reason, right? This is the same thing the Bible scholars have done
for the last, oh, I don’t know, maybe 1,500 years. Maybe 1,500. Very consistent,
very consistent people. They always are, okay? Here’s the problem, and this is what the video,
the interview that danny jones had um um this is what and by the way i had somebody
comment to me just today um this was the best interview that i’ve ever given because it set
things out danny was able to keep me on some kind of linear thing and he’s danny was like you know
be direct bro right that uh that i really appreciate that i really appreciate that and
read The Chemical Muse right before then, right? It does its work, bro, right? I’m exceptionally
honored to have been able to be involved, and I thank you. Danny, I knew that you were going to
get a lot of heat. A lot of people are praying for Danny. Do we have a picture of Danny Jones?
Do we have a picture? Oh, look at this. I kind of get excited when I see Danny. Blow that up.
I have like a good day. I don’t know what it is. Some people have, yeah, just sign up. I was trying
to hide behind him does some people have this i don’t know he’s got this thing i look at him i’m
like yeah this is of the earth you know what i mean this is strong this is this is going to last
i like it get him down get him down danny um uh so look to be given the opportunity to expose
people like this is perfect this is the sacrifice that we love these biblical scholars will come in
with this very same bravado. They always do until they find out what area you study.
And they’re like, ooh, right? Because everybody, I’ll tell you a secret, everybody who studies who
has ever been exposed to ancient Greek, and this includes modern Greeks, and I studied with modern
Greeks, and I can tell you for a fact, it is humbling. Ancient Greek is humbling. 1.5 million,
that’s a ton of unique words. Think of the brainpower it takes to be able to produce that.
Just following their tracks is going to make all of us a lot smarter, and it seems to do that consistently through history.
As it bubbles up through the surface, the more people open up that classical Greek, all of a sudden, next thing you know, there’s Renaissance, and there’s whatnot.
Now, we can either have that Renaissance, or we can very happily sit back and look at characters like Dan, and we can say, what are they doing?
I’m going to follow.
I’m going to believe.
I’m going to commit to you my faith.
And I’m going to believe that the Romans just wouldn’t do such a thing as drugs.
And I’m going to believe in the fairy tale of Jesus Christ, who is not the guy who was arrested in a public park at 4 a.m. with a naked boy.
I’m going to believe in a reality that is not the real.
And you and I know we can’t do that. We can’t do that
That’s why you’re here is because you want the reality you value history
You worship history and you don’t want the lie, please
Please understand. I am not the only one in this arena. We’re about to bring in
Gnostic
Informant who was just renamed Gnostic warrior
by someone
But we’ll bring we’ll bring him in we’ll bring him in. Okay
um make sure that we got i want to just end off with a couple of quotes here people and i always
do this and people know it um oh yeah here’s your thought of simos what’s jesus what is jesus giving
to his people he’s giving these death-inducing drugs people if you want to tell grandma what
jesus christ was tell her she he was a guy who was arrested in a public park with a naked kid
and was handing out at some time death inducers.
Oh, God.
You haven’t been there until you’ve been here.
I guarantee it.
I know there’s a few people out here who are like, yeah, I hear them.
Right?
Give me the next one.
Here we go.
The curative property claimed by, oh, we’re going back to the gospel.
That’s okay.
We’re going back to the gospel.
And you’ll notice that there’s an attachment.
There’s a connection between the gospel and drugs.
Right?
Because what is it, people?
That salvation is health.
And in antiquity, different times it changes and the drugs change, different regions change, depends on what markets you can get. But there’s a long tradition in antiquity of the drugs being the source of health, right? It’s one of the major, Galen says it’s kind of the foundational branch of medicine is that drug work.
Love, love.
Oh, God, this stuff’s gorgeous.
Give me, we’re almost done.
Hang in there, Gnostic.
We’re almost there.
Who are the Soteri, sorry, what’s that?
Okay, who are the Soteri, they’re the worshipers of Artemis, Sotera.
Did you know there was a savior before Jesus?
Yeah, there is.
The first savior was the first Christ, and they called her Diana.
They called her Diana Medwa. Oh, my God. You mean our our root for medicine comes from her name?
Yeah, I’m talking history. History’s genius. The Medea. Yeah. She’s the one who started all this.
So fantastic. But she didn’t get unlike Jesus. She didn’t get arrested while engaging the rights
in a public park with a naked kid yeah love it let’s go to the next one finally i wanted to put
up a couple of quotes here for the for people look and for people who are emailing and telling me all
of these most excellent accounts of your you know awakening of your inspiration of your drive
you know um and those who want the greek too they want to eat that real stuff straight on up
okay right we’ve got to stay together and we’ve got to move forward watch this people
tales from the spectrum by the way i’m not monetizing devil wanted me to say that damn
i forgot about that in the beginning devil said hey you got to tell them we respect the people
who are saying we respect you for not taking payola right so it you’ll notice that our members
have gone up our subscribers have gone up right so we got to let people know that the only way
this magic works as if there’s not a frigging dime involved yeah you guys oh god can you smell it
i think it’s someone’s backside hit the next one hit the next one who is this oh god this guy gives
me the creeps too okay give me the quote i believe this is from tails from the spectrum thank you
thank you tails from the spectrum i believe i’ve identified the antichrist fantastic let me know
he’s here now fantastic he said verbatim what the bible says he would i think he’s talking
about the interview i think this is about the interview um fantastic was he there too i don’t
know the camera catch that it’s the you know it’s only what you can see in reflection right give me
next one um more ronin scholars please oh this one this one made me so happy oh god i love the
spirit in this one yeah um see here’s the problem institutions institutions pump out people and
doesn’t matter if their training is good or bad as long as they’re getting paid right that’s what
institutions do but they’re artists and there’s discipline in that artistic community and it’s
those people who end up bringing you the frontier. It’s those people upholding the orthodoxy.
It’s just not on our list of things to do. Love it. So you’ve seen Dan tonight. You’ve seen the
incristations and epichristations and christations and antichristations. And you’ve seen that they
are drugs, Dan. They’re drugs. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I know it’s just because you haven’t read
these sources i get it i get it i totally get it dan thank you for coming tonight let’s um let us
switch now here’s what’s gonna here’s what i’m gonna do i’m gonna step outside because that was
it i’m gonna step outside for a minute and i’m going to summon some wind oh yeah no i’m gonna
reach out there and just suck in some fresh air i love it and i’m gonna give neil time uninterrupted
to bring us his delightful presentation.
Hit it, Chewy.
Bring it, Neil.
How you doing?
How you doing, Gnostic Warrior?
What up, what up, what up?
Thanks for coming back again.
Crazy mystic, amateur mystic.
Thanks for coming back.
I’m going to be quiet now
because you have been pumping me
with stuff that is just fantastic.
You’re getting great sources.
And I asked you to please find some naked boys
in some magic text.
and you’re gonna do that too so let’s see what happens yeah when you come back you come back
we’ll go to that stuff excellent while you’re gone i want to give my my my thoughts on the
whole dan mcclellan the situation kip davis all that stuff good good but i think i feel like it’s
fair that we do it separately because we don’t what you say isn’t necessarily i isn’t my own
opinion what i say isn’t necessarily your opinion we have our own thoughts yeah no i’m yielding to
you the the platform now you can it’s your space and people should have that oh yeah it feels like
a salon and now number two is up okay i’m gonna shut up and bounce out go ahead all right so
first of all to get out to get the booze out of the way because i’m gonna i wanna i have some
some things some thoughts that i know that i’ll get some booze for and some thoughts that i know
i’ll get some cheers and laughs from so look at the booze out of the way who can get that out of
of the way my the booze that you guys are all you guys could all throw your tomatoes at me for this
one but i thought kip davis did a diligent and good job today at sticking to the text and uh
looking at the evidence and coming up with some good arguments i was especially happy to see him
acknowledge that scholarship is going into a direction uh he mentioned jonathan adler he
mentioned gad barnea he mentioned um russell gemerkin as in bringing out new peer-reviewed
material and new ideas about how how how late are these texts or how early are these texts
the hebrew bible the torah genesis and he is acknowledging that it looks more and more
likely that these are hellenistic in the form at least in the form that we have it today
hellenistic with roots that probably go back for our however far away who knows anything’s possible
in that sense i mean for example we talked about this on this channel before we have for example
before i even get into uh i just want to finish off the kip thing before i get to dan and we have
in our possession what is called nestor’s cup so let me share my screen real quick if you don’t
mind um it is the this page wikipedia page now this is nestor’s cup right this is this is the
this is the cup of nestor what is that all right this is a 8th century bc greek alphabet cup and
what is on it is the name of a character from homer’s iliad all right so you can’t find
anything like this there’s no cup with moses name on it or abraham’s name on it you get stuff about
the kings and the princes and the all that stuff that nobody denies is legitimate historical but
as far as anything from like genesis or the exodus or the flood of noah there’s nothing like this
there is no cup that you could find look at this this is what it says in greek i am the cup of
nestor good for drinking whoever drinks from this cup desire beautifully crowned ever daddy will
season we have we have this dating so homer’s iliad we date it to when we find evidence of the
text right does that make sense we don’t just look if homer was saying i’m a guy living in 14 000
years ago we wouldn’t just say oh it’s dating to that time for some reason with the hebrew bible
that seems to be the that seems to be where everyone tries to go they’re trying to find out
how far back can we go instead of actually just dating the text to where it goes letting the
evidence fall where it falls finally it seems like the tides are changing and people are because
i’ve been asking this question for um at least two years now uh when i yeah i’ll say for about
two years now i’ve been asking the question who is citing genesis before 300 bc can someone just
show me anybody mentioning citing it quoting from it anything like that the prophets don’t the
prophets never do ever so i don’t know how you i don’t know why it’s taking so long for people to
come around that but kip davis came along and he gave his i thought he did good so there’s all
right throw your throw your vegetables at me and all that stuff get that out the way but i got some
stuff for dan though that that it’s not it’s not looking good for dan all right i got a video on
the bottom let’s play it and we’ll talk about everybody something to keep in mind the next
time you see people talking about what religion does, and what problems it causes, and what
religion is, is that religion does not exist outside of our discourse about it. It is a
conceptual category that we created. It is a map, and it is not the territory. The creation of this
category really began with medieval Islam, and was taken up within the Renaissance, the Reformation,
and the enlightenment whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what you just heard what just happened there
you just i don’t know if you noticed that but that was a you just that was a thousand years you just
skirted past like it was one year uh this is something that was taken up in the early medieval
islam and then the renaissance and the enlightenment whoa what the hell it was you have a time machine
you just went from the 7th century all the way to the 13th 14th century that all the way to the
7th 16th and what you just what are you doing well how do you just say that’s so so nonchalant
you know the thing called religion is something that was just some random thing that you know
just just just islam and medieval and whoa you just went through a thousand years right there
that’s a you can’t just skirt past that like it was like a decade like you you could say that for
like i don’t know uh you know there was this one mystery cult that sprung up in uh ephesus near
ephesus and it was around for you know half a century or something that’s what you could say
that but like you can’t just skirt past a thousand years of time seventh century to the to the
renaissance all the way to the enlightenment you’re very you just passed through a thousand
years all right let’s continue i’ll get to why this is uh that’s not really the bad part though
the bad the reason why i’m bringing up this video is because his criticism of amon
can be directly pointed at him for his arguments for what the term religion means i’ll show you
what and it was primarily a tool that european protestant christians used to help them understand
this new world that they were discovering around them and so in many ways i kind of agree with that
but i don’t we’ll just let’s let it rock for a second it’s not playing did it freeze looks like
it froze look at him hey dan he looks concerned and so in many ways all right you know what i
might have to uh play this from a different player because i think it’s not it’s downloading on your
end and it’s fine i can figure this out just bring it down i’ll bring it back up in a second um it’s
it’ll be no bit no problem i can i can fix this and i can uh we’re just gonna play the whole video
through and not pause them anymore and i have uh and that’s what we’ll do all right let me say a
song and dance while you prep that while you prep that are you ready to go me yeah everybody something
i’m ready to go okay go for it keep going all right all right all right so oh wait hold on
i have to i have to remove this from the stage first all right um go ahead sing your song and
dance all right go ahead here we go people um the whole thing that i wanted to make sure people got
um was that this is intentional obfuscation right creating a false world where your people
don’t apply to the people around you um this is a modest virus in the brain of humanity as
soon as the society goes modest you lose that classical wisdom and um out go the libraries
out go the reason out goes the discovery oh i’m getting there i’m getting there you’ll see when
i get there play this clip hold that thought because i’m going to get there this has to do
with the the very the very definition of religion it’s funny that this is the thing that he’s
talking about and basing a lot of his he had a whole course on this and we seem to be on exact
opposite ends of this and i think it has to do with a world this has to do with world view in
lot of ways so what you just said is going to be it’s going to end up being very crucial to all of
this it has to do with you’ll see actually i’m getting ahead of myself let me just let me play
this clip and there’s something to keep in mind the next time you see people talking about what
religion does and what problems it causes and what religion is is that religion does not exist
outside of our discourse about it it is a conceptual category that we created it is a map
and it is not the territory. The creation of this category really began with medieval Islam
and was taken up within the Renaissance, the Reformation, and the Enlightenment,
and it was primarily a tool that European Protestant Christians used to help them
understand this new world that they were discovering around them, and so in many ways
our concept of religion today can be reduced to an essence of whatever sufficiently resembles
Protestant Christianity, and this is the way that Brent Nongry phrased it in his wonderful book
Before Religion. And so when people talk about religion, usually it’s a conceptual proxy for
Protestant Christianity. It’s an attempt to generalize from Protestant Christianity
to all other religions. But we can’t really define religion in a way that is analytically useful.
This is a debate that’s been going on for many years within the scholarship, and we have just
not found a definition that reduces everything that is labeled religion to any kind of short
list of necessary and sufficient features. And that’s because the concept did not develop with
reference to necessary and sufficient features. It is not learned and it is not used with reference
to necessary and sufficient features and if you want to look at the scholarship that has been
discussing this for many decades now uh here are some things you can look up let me can you hear me
yeah this is the part that i want to really focus on and finally if you go to my link tree there’s
a pdf called religion and then in brackets it says draft this is a draft of a chapter from my
doctoral dissertation from several years ago that i ended up cutting from the dissertation i didn’t
submit it because it was too bulky and it was unnecessary but the whole chapter is basically
discussing the concept of religion how it was created how people attempt to okay so this is
the part that it really got me going about all right so this is no no wait wait can i can i just
say i wanted to kill myself halfway into that yeah oh my god but this is there’s a reason i had to
get to this part because i checked this this article this dissertation that he wrote and
he it seems like he was really okay i’m just gonna say this off the front and you’re gonna i’m gonna
take you i’m gonna put my money where my mouth is explain to you what why i think this he i don’t
think he went into this looking blindly like a scientist would and gather and just let the data
decide the what the outcome was he went into this trying to make tr well maybe trying to argue what
his dissertation was trying to find the data that supports whatever argument he was making
and he what he credit what he tried to criticize you for is actually what he’s doing here so i’m
going to share my screen and this is what this is the dissertation right here so this is what he
does this is this is this was kind of crazy he uh defines the word it’s about the word religion
remember he said he cut this from his dissertation so it didn’t actually get into his dissertation
but he has it on his website um and he mentions it in that video now if you actually i’m not going to
read the whole thing but i really you know i would say if anyone’s really interested read it why not
see where i’m at see where he’s at let’s then decide for yourself what’s going on here
the part that really got me to want to bring this up today in context to why he’s being a
a hypocrite for what he’s saying about you is right around where he decides to do an etymology
of the word religion right here the purpose of this section is to outline the process by which
modern concept of religion is developed and he says i briefly outline the process of reification
as is understood by scholars today arranging discussion about the history of the etymological
origin of the english word religion in the latin religio several words appear to have been used in
greek and latin antiquity to refer to concepts variously associated with the modern notion of
religion for example pietas fides lex secta cultus colore threskia by the way i gotta i got i gotta
do something first somebody sent me a screenshot to right before this right before i went on with
you someone sent me this screenshot and um first of all let me pull this up because i’m gonna put
a we have to put a pause in this for a second i’m going to come back to this dissertation but what
just i have you have you’re going to you’re going to die when you see this okay i don’t want to
spoil your surprise but i see it coming yeah and you’re right you’re right oh god keep going keep
going all right so here is someone sent me this screenshot earlier to right before this is right
before i got on with you and it’s someone from it’s a screenshot from a chat that was i don’t
know where i have no idea where this is from actually to be honest but it’s funny because
it’s so typical dan are you serious you think a person with four degrees
required ancient greek who spent almost 10 years supervising the modern greek translation of the
book of norman and regularly visited greece doesn’t know greek are you honestly think that
i mean it doesn’t sound like that but that’s my impression of someone who talks like this
like that is not an argument that’s a i don’t know maniac thing to say to somebody
how dare you question my greek i spent 10 years supervising the modern greek translation of the
mom and bible you dude you sound like a douchebag okay okay okay the reason why i bring
this up yes he does this all the time he just he uses credentials at everything he’ll have a video
he’ll have he’ll be working a video yeah he’ll just say this is utterly false and preposterous
and um here’s 10 books that i never read or you’re never going to read that agree with me on
this but he won’t he’ll just assert he does a lot of assertions he never really gives arguments you
notice this he did this with you in the first video yeah the one not the christ one what was
first one about again oh god i don’t remember translation can i say though let me let me
interrupt let me interrupt because i don’t want to miss this i’m i’m flowing but go ahead look at the
no you’re flowing and i don’t want to interrupt it but look he regularly visited greece somehow
he thinks his walking around modern greece is going to allow him to absorb homer and pendar
i don’t know i don’t know what you’re smoking guy when you see this you’re gonna laugh and you see
this because in that dissertation all right first of all i gotta say this first when he the first
video he did about you i give it a zero i’m giving i told him i already told you i told you kip kip
did great today i’ll give kip i i don’t even give any kip tip got a hundred in my eyes i i know you
you could disagree with that i’m just saying i like kip’s video today i thought the energy was
good and i thought it was great dan’s first video against you zero zero you wanna know why he gets a
zero he didn’t give any arguments all he did was say no and here’s five books that no one none of
you are ever going to read and i’m just going to gaslight the whole public and make them think that
they’re i’m right because i have a phd bro that’s not an argument that’s an assertion and it’s
nothing at the end of the day we’re back at square one because all you you’re making an assertion and
And by the way, you gave arguments.
You gave multiple words, the Theosabase thing.
That was a good argument.
I thought it was very convincing.
Theosabase is a technical term in Greek.
It comes in the Hebrew in two different words.
I thought that was a good argument.
Dan didn’t do anything like that.
By the way, Kip actually did give some examples.
He said the word Pascha, a couple other words.
He gave some arguments.
Fuck yeah, let’s do that.
That’s what this is supposed to be about.
Bring an argument.
Dan didn’t bring shit.
All Dan did is say, no.
oh no oh here’s five books that no one’s gonna read all right anyways let’s put that aside for
now okay let me say something let me say something i just want you to know that in that second clip
that you showed him where he was babbling on about religion i swear that is a hypnotic drug
um that religion departments have developed over time it’s a logos that they use to low well it
lulls me into like you know first it grates and then it makes me sleepy i don’t know why
but you have to understand too that there is a lot there is a lot of bad work there is a lot you
don’t understand it if you don’t understand the lingo you don’t understand that when one scientist
has really gone wrong and the others are all trying to correct them that’s the problem with
the theology people is that they have to prop up right that that um theology can you just tell me
neil really quick sbc is what explain that to me again sbc yeah yeah what is sbc sbl you mean
whatever it dan’s associated with it one of his prestigious society one of his prestigious groups
they suck they they’re they’re the whole point of them is just to i mean they’ll they if the facts
are brute they stay go they have to like their whole thing is like what can we get away with
how how early can we date the text let’s see how early let’s try to get to the iron age let’s try
to get it there that’s what they’re doing you could just so obvious they’re trying to please
all the christians and they’re trying to sell christianity to liberal audiences but the bible
really isn’t that anti-gay guys it’s really not it’s really actually really progressive
no it’s not that it’s sucks all right and it’s and it’s dated to the hellenistic period
as you’re going to find out but my when i drop my when i drop my bat on my video with
gad barnea we blow it out the water for two and a half hours anyways pull up my screen please so
okay so the reason why i wanted to show you that his little i how dare you question my goody skills
because right here there’s a word in greek you see that word let me see if i can zoom in a little bit
so everybody can see it you see it draskea what what is that it looks like it looks like threskea
but i don’t know i’m not i’m not really sure and then i’m thinking to myself maybe it’s a coin a
version of some word maybe it’s a different version of the word threskea that i’m thinking
of because that’s that that’s a word for religion right and i asked my friend who knows modern greek
is this how you spell it in modern greek he said no check this out ready i’m gonna come back to
this and i gotta go back to i gotta go back to my other folder just give me a second all right
so back to this folder right look if you put that word into the any lexicon this is perseus tufts
this has perseus has all the lexicons rolled into one that’s why we call it alice baby no
information found that’s not a word dude he spelled it wrong oh how dare you question
my greek bro you spelled fresca wrong it’s not a word you don’t know greek spelled it wrong
dude here’s how you really spell it within heyta all right so what does it mean it means religious
worship now isn’t that funny isn’t that funny that this word means religious worship that’s how it’s
used in greek you see you got herodotus twice um epith what is this uh you got the book of
acts uses it ephesians uses it uh so christians are using the out of this word huh
why wouldn’t we talk about this word all right let’s just put this aside for now let’s go back
to the article if you don’t mind all right getting all fired up over here so back to the article
this is what he’s saying here he says this he spelled the word wrong but he’s saying all those
words el sebia which is another word we use that can translate to religious or pious or yeah
religious all right he says this is what he says he just says for example all of these words
that we use for that that that um all of these words that i just named that form the basis of
the meaning of the english word religion just ignore all that because i am just going
to focus on this one latin word religio right so he’s only going to focus on this word religio
but not only that this is what he does this is where this is why he’s a hypocrite for calling
you out he decides to use three examples of the word religio used by plotus he uses the word
plotus julius caesar and cicero while lucretia lucretius pejoratively described it as a synonym
okay so maybe four but mostly three he’s saying okay cicero you religio is a virtue that was
contrasted with superstitio for caesar it’s an obligation of an oath right okay plotus uses his
word he calls me back directly and invites me to dinner yeah i had scruples religio i could not
decline so like oaths and uh obligations right super and then cicero okay he uses these three
why are you cherry picking those three when you just criticize amon ready for this here is
the perseus tufts so we’re using lewis and short lexicon here’s the word religio and look how many
times it’s used for reverence for the gods look at this 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19. why didn’t you talk about any of those usage of the word why did you just pick three
cherry pick three random usages of the word now i get what you’re trying to do you’re trying to show
look the word religio was used in different contexts during in the ancient world we don’t
use the word religion the same way they do that’s because religion is english and religio is latin
and the reason why this is a stupid argument is because you wouldn’t do the same thing for
scientia scientia the word science comes from the latin word scientia which means knowing or being
skilled in anything knowledge right here’s a cicero right sister i’m gonna let’s go with
cicero he wants to talk about sister let’s talk about sister all right cicero uses the worst word
right here he says aught skitter is theorem verum i suck at latin the hill art etiamacy maxime cms
all right now if you look if you check this with this i you know i’m being honest i’m not a latin
guy but i know what this translates to i can look it up because other people have done it before me
it says either we know nothing about such things or even if we know them thoroughly we cannot be
better or happier because of that knowledge basically scientias is the latin word for the
is the latin version of the greek word gnosis it means knowledge that’s it we use the word science
way different than the latin uses the word scientias right but why isn’t where’s dan at
trying to tell everybody we shouldn’t use the word science anymore because it doesn’t mean what it
used to mean right because that that’s not worth it that’s not a worthy dissertation because it’s
not it doesn’t do anything because nobody would care everyone would just ignore it but the fact
that the matter is this this is stupid dissertation anyways because this is actually a funny funny
thing that happened it’s very it’s very uh comedic it’s very what happened with this is actually very
hilarious so there was actually a time where dan tried to police the usage of this word on the
internet so let me share my screen one more time i have another screenshot this happened a while ago
there was a debate between a christian and dave mcdonald’s pretty good debate and um i was in the
chat and i decided i said look for once i agree with the christian here i said religion has the
public service of giving people an outlet to grieve loved ones who pass away this is something
i don’t think anyone can disagree with and then this is that’s wait a minute he just used the
word religion in a context that i don’t agree with i gotta police the internet now he says
religion doesn’t exist outside of discourse so it’s not doing anything at all and then the funny
part about this is uh wrong way funny part about this is two seconds later um people other people
in the chat are using the word religion religion isn’t a direct correlation to a lower aggression
we don’t see higher aggression and the ember disagree with me politely i don’t think religion
let alone any specific religion should get credit for human grief that’s part of human being
now listen we all know what they mean by that none of us are thinking in ourselves well
uh cicero would have used the word religion different so ember you shouldn’t have said
it that way you should change whatever you said to worship of the gods or something
no because that’s incoherent and that’s not how language works people we decide how we determine
what words mean and words change over time right now when i say the word religion people know what
i mean by it they don’t think that i’m talking about an obligation for like caesar used it
they think i’m talking about worship of certain gods attending a certain church or synagogue or
buddhist temple people know what religion means because that’s how we use it now i have one more
thing that i want to present um oh a couple things actually beautiful beautiful text from my boy here
speaking of the renaissance because i think this this word is very uh well well defined in my
opinion and i disagree with what dan’s trying to do with this word i think his dissertation sucks
i think the way he tries to redefine words by going back to the ancient past and
trying to bring the context of what they talked about in the ancient past into today’s
uh world is is dumb i don’t know what it doesn’t have any it just doesn’t seem useful at all
um people when we say monotheism we know what that means we know there is no pure monotheism
anywhere even islam isn’t really purely monotheistic there’s jinn there’s spirits
there’s the devil hashitan all that stuff we know we know there’s no pure monotheism but we know
when you say monotheism you know what it means we know it means that there’s one eternal creator
who’s perfect and infallible and and all the spirits are but that’s what monotheism means
let’s not play and i’m going to get back to that in a second my boys bruno brumi and flavio
from the 14th and 15th century along with machiavelli and petrarch this is who i this
is what who i’ve been reading in the last couple days or last couple weeks right now i’m right now
i’m into flavio uh briando uh biondo flavio he’s i’m reading him right now because i’m working on
a video and i’m actually glad this all happened between amon and dan because i i make i was
originally making a video dealing with some of the stuff that i disagree with dan on but i’d rather
do it here because this video is turning into a really deep anthropology video that i’m working on
it’s going to be a big documentary about what is religion and i couldn’t i found the most beautiful
beautiful definition of religion from a renaissance writer who used by the way petrarch
flavio and bruni brumi and um machiavelli they all use the term dark ages to refer to the period
between 500 a.d and a thousand a.d and the reason why they can that scholars today hate that i
i think dan’s one of those people who hate who fight against that and then no that’s a that’s
incorrect dark ages it wasn’t really that dark was actually pretty bright no fuck that i agree
with the renaissance people i agreed that it was dark ages and there’s only one reason why i don’t
care about technology i don’t care about logistics i don’t care about how cool their churches looked
i don’t give a shit about how beautiful they have a crucifixes and all that stuff there was
no fucking texts no classical literature between 500 and a thousand zero you cannot compare cicero
you cannot compare uh you cannot compare ovid and virgil and homer and plato and socrates and
hypatia and and sappho you can’t compare them there’s enough there’s no comparison to all those
amazing brilliant thinkers and writers of the classical antiquity compared to anyone between
500 and a thousand a.d dark ages bro period facts and so this dude says this so well this is
what he says religio nonius marcellus writes is the worship of the gods according to plutarch
in the life of amelius polis the philosophers and all other ancestors defined it as knowledge of
divine matters aulus gellius says that marcus cicero in a speech on the appointing of a
prosecutor maintains that shrines full of majesty and awe are called religiosa and sabinus thinks
that religiosis is what which because of some quality of holiness has been removed and set
apart from us the term being derived from leaving behind relinquir selfish are servius selfish
so so piscius thought that religiosis is that which because of some quality of holiness has
derived its name from to remove and pompius festus says religiosi are those who distinguish
between the things that are to be done and the things that are to be avoided now that is a good
etymology dig for religion done how many years before dan did it 800 years before dan did it
and it’s not enlightenment and this is before the uh uh protestant reformation
so this is already these ideas are already way before the protestant reformation
there’s nothing to do with that and by the way all and dan is actually dan is making this weird
argument that this term religion only so somehow somehow helps protestant christians in the modern
age and he says in his article it says only for like white males specifically which is weird
uh that’s in the article you’ll see that but the term for religion in arabic is widely used
in the same context that we use it’s called dean d-i-i-n or harvard spelled in arabic dean and
that’s the term that we would translate into english as religion and it’s used in the exact
same context so you’re you’re actually what you’re doing is you’re taking the context away from
the whole world basically and just saying and just trying to hone in on these was one little
group of people as if it only helps them i think you’re i think you’re putting your politics into
this shit too much dude i don’t i don’t find that a fair argument okay i’m gonna bust in because i
want to make a comment yeah and i need to say that um chewy is very quick on the trigger and
was trying to shoot somebody in the chat and missed and hit somebody else and what was the
um for that person who was hit oh it’s dave hawthorne dave i’m so sorry chewy blasted you but
you got a big laser hole right in your chest buddy if we can bring you back for the dead we will but
we weren’t shooting she was uh chewy wasn’t shooting for you um keep keep the chat in a
place that is appropriate for the salon baby right or chewy is armed and ready you see that
for the bow thing all right sorry i want to say about what you were just doing neil
first of all it was a little hard to watch it was a little hard to watch i got to admit i mean
i took my turn you took your turn and boy by the end of it it must be sore it must really be sore
what i saw you do was what a good dissertation committee will do right you have to get that
dissertation to the raw point of perfection and somebody who’s going to step up put some greek
up there and misspell it that’s you know come on man especially especially when you get that
you get that offended about how great your greek is are you for 10 years um yeah right
did i tell you about the back and forth that i had when i i uh with him on x on twitter no tell
me about the back and forth all right can i can i just throw a couple more screenshots oh yeah no
i’m out i just wanted to pop in for a second it’s funny people are going to like this because i i
brought some to him on on twitter that he just had to stop listening he had to stop replying because
he knew he tapped out it was game over for this dude so i you know i followed dan i you know i i
actually learned a lot from dan mcclellan believe it or not uh especially on the hebrew old testament
stuff i want to know i’m trying to learn as much as i can from everybody but i noticed something
oh this is the wrong slide all right here it is dan mcclellan there was a post where he uh i have
it screenshotted here somewhere um sorry about that let me just um did i really not save it
oh here we go okay i got it now so dan mcclellan was refuting a christian and the christian
made this point and i thought this was kind of dumb at first i just didn’t know understand what
what the argument was some christian named chris kugler said that paul didn’t believe in only of
course paul didn’t believe in only one god but he did believe in the cosmic cosmogonical first
principle that was distinct from all other reality not in degree but in kind no bravo to you chris
because you read the sources maybe he doesn’t maybe he just got lucky i don’t know but if you
read the sources you would know that that was the dominant philosophy in the first century under the
middle platonism of the day middle platonism for those who don’t know was the leading philosophical
dominance of thought all over the mediterranean which combines plato’s philosophy of the demiurge
the perfect god you created everything mixed with the stoic logos who’s also a monistic maybe even
uh yeah monistic god they sometimes they call the noose the mind or the arcade the first it comes
from the pre-socratics comes from athens baby now if you don’t read the classical sources
you wouldn’t know this and i said this is dan showing off that he doesn’t know classical sources
because this is i’m telling you just i i wish i can describe this better if if you know you know
but i met you never you ever you ever heard someone try to just like explain i don’t know
star wars or something and they pretend to be an expert in star wars but then they say like jabba
of the hoot and they say that or they say like some name wrong or something and they’re or they
get something wrong that’s so like so sophomoric it’s like wait did you even watch that movie
how did you not even know this that’s what dan’s doing right here this is on full display
because any anyone who reads the fucking text from the first century or the first century bc
or the second century bc or the third century bc even in the fourth century bc you will find
In theologians and philosophers, there’s an idea of an archaic, the first, the one, the monad, as he’s described in the Chaldean oracles, the monad, who splits his dyad into two, becomes a triad, and this is influencing Trinitarian theology.
you now am i am i just am i just connecting the two because i feel like it no we have christian
sources called the valentinians who are prominent in the first half of the second century who
believe that christ and zoe logos and zoe as in john 1 describes if you read it in the greek
dan should know this if you read the john 1 in the greek you get theos creates the world through
a logos who splits off a dyad as zoe life that’s translated into life the valentinians argued that
that’s a triad in the in the pythagorean sense and he was charged by hippolytus in the late
second century with plagiarizing pythagoras this is how we know this is our greek ideas
anyways so dan comes along and thinks this is a retrogression of later philosophical frameworks
onto paul’s writings for instance it presupposes creation ex nihilo huh which is an ideology that
wouldn’t be created until over a century after paul’s death people need to think more critically
about what monotheism is now this is strange because the guy didn’t even say anything about
monotheism and he didn’t say anything he didn’t even say anything about creation from nothing
which is what cratio creation ex nihil is which is a it technically is a doctrine from uh theophilus
of antioch in the in the late second century which is what dan probably read somewhere and just
asserted that that’s that’s got to be the only time it just invented from thin air
like none there’s no ideas that preceded just this guy was a genius just out of thin air invented
this new doctrine but it’s such a weird thing to say to this guy so okay so uh i have my things
backwards you just gotta um here we go so i come in and uh somebody somebody asked dan mcclellan
they go hey dan isn’t it possible that creation x nihilo was i think they said something along
the lines of like not necessary for the for paul or there could be similar ideas to this
he said something like that i didn’t have that part screenshot i don’t really care what the
person said but dan’s response was anything is possible but the overwhelming consensus i hate
me says that the overwhelming consensus is not an argument by the way it’s an assertion but the
overwhelming consensus is that the christians developed it in the late second century during
debates with gnostics and other greek thinkers whoa that’s a really sophomoric phrase right there
debates with gnostics what what did i just what what the do you not know christian history
not debates with gnostics what is this like 1940 scholarship right here we’re i thought we were
way past the gnostic thing because that’s a first of all that happened in the early seconds early
early second century not the late second century and they’re not gnostics they’re just christians
we call them gnostics they call them gnostics later so all there’s so much wrong what he just
said there so much wrong what he just said there so i come in this is what i said anything’s
possible, how about maybe read the primary sources and check? This is laughably wrong.
In order to be this off, one must have gone their whole PhD career without reading any primary
sources of the theologians and philosophers of the time of Paul. Just because Theophilus of Antioch
was the first to articulate this as Curatio ex nihilo in the 160s does not mean that he just
invented it from thin air. This is typical of Middle Platonic theology, a combination of the
Stoic logos with Plato’s demiurge easily found easily found you could just find sort of sources
over El canoes is a big source uh Plutarch talks about anyways I’ll just keep reading uh and even
in some degree going back easily found in the writings of Philo this first century BC writer
and first century CE writer he’s he’s at the turn of the century uh writings of Philo and other
middle Platonists and even in some degree going back to Plato’s Timaeus everyone if by the way
haven’t read plato’s timaeus don’t call yourself a scholar of religion don’t call yourself a theology
major stop call yourself something else because if you haven’t read if you don’t know plato’s timaeus
then you don’t know the whole roots of western theology of you don’t know the roots of monotheism
at all you need to just stop you need to go back to school and let me finish this off before you
say something on that all right as the idea develops over the course of many centuries
just looking up when was creatio ex nihilo a christian doctrine doesn’t explain where this
idea comes from and paul’s theology was certainly influenced by middle platonism by the way you
could tell not just by how the way you could tell by the way uh paul’s ideas and paul’s
paul’s aesthetic paul’s um paul’s morals all middle platonist all of it and also debates
with gnostics that happened in the early second century not late second century and nobody called
themselves gnostics they were just christians with various beliefs some emphasis on gnosis
in some of the groups this whole post sounds uninformed in many ways now before you say
something if i was to make a list of all the the major gnostic thinkers all of them are dead by 160.
um marcion valentinus the carpocrates facilities most of them are dead before the second century
even started saturnius mark uh simon magus uh most of them are dead most of them didn’t make
it to the second century they’re all first the roots of its first century they’re all dead by
the year 150 144 160. so it’s like wait a minute how many of these people came back from the dead
band to debate with to debate the creation ex nihilo that’s you don’t know what you’re talking
about all right did you want to say something i just wanted to say congratulations for um towing
you know the line it’s not over yet you know what i mean no but i i think it’s important to realize
look what you’re doing you’re taking a critical look at the work and you’re doing it from the
perspective of those sources um i’m i just want you to know i’m i’m digging your work this is
where the gaslighting comes in this is where the typical dan comes in typical hey i’m a mormon
dan comes in after after i just threw all the primary sources down his throat he comes in and
says i’ve read the primary sources many times which i can tell he hasn’t because he wouldn’t
have said that just straight up fact doesn’t follow that’s not logic you wouldn’t have said
what you said if you read the primary sources i’ve read the primary sources many times
and i’m representing the overwhelming consensus you can check out may hubla
winston v goldstein and more recently even understood in brick mill to read about the
primary sources that you’ve misread to be promotion promoting creation by the way i
never promoted creation x nihilo you’re the one that brought that up i just said you don’t need
it dummy all right before i even checked any of those names that he threw at me in an attempt
to gaslight i didn’t care because i know and i know the primary sources and they didn’t change
because you just threw some books at me they’re still there and they still say the same things dan
that’s how history works it’s stuck frozen history doesn’t change we can play definition games and
nothing changes in the past except how we look at it so here’s what i said listing a bunch of
scholars names and some attempt to gaslight does not somehow erase the primary sources like plato
aristobulus philo plutarch and forming groups like the hipsterians with concepts of an eternal
perfect creator just as plato talks about in timaeus and this was present in middle platonism
long before croatio next nihilo was an official doctrine again croatio ex nihilo wasn’t invented
from thin air it was preceded by these doctrines and i know this because i’d read the sources
from the primary sources you don’t read dan the comment you tried to refute was not about when
when creatio ex nihilo became a doctrine in christianity the comment was about what paul
believed about god and you can’t say that these ideas came later that would be admitting that
you are not aware of the sources then i went and looked first book he so he so he he gave me may
was the first one and i you know let’s see maybe i’m wrong maybe mr phd with his fucking 10 years
of teaching greek maybe he’s right and i’m wrong let’s see let’s read the fucking shit that he gave
me to read the first fucking page i open up was a literally about literally mentions all the sources
that i mentioned it mentions philo it says is it the he opens up a question is it true that philo
already had something similar to curation x nihilo in the first century bc we’re going to talk about
that and then it says oh of course we have to talk about plato’s timaeus as well all of it was right
there in the fucking first page i couldn’t believe it so i i had to come back to dan 24 hours later
i came back to dan i said dan after checking into some of the names you listed the real question is
did you read them may immediately begins to discuss plato’s timaeus and the question of
did philo already teach creation out of nothing and how plato’s was interpreted by bacillides
first century christian not late second century christian you’re off by about 100 years there
interpreted by bacillus by the way the magus archon that’s a braxis baby first second century
christian the logo the logo of my channel that’s a braxis that’s the magus archon he’s the eternal
perfect god that created everything you cannot say that you don’t need there’s no requirement
for creation xd hello by bacillus for bacillus doctrine he already has it there it’s in the
sources read hippolytus read uh irenaeus a first second century christian he even has a chapter
about theophilus theophilus of antioch who he says is responding to these ideas nothing so far
suggests that the idea of a single perfect eternal creator requires the doctrine of creation x nihilo
you can reject philo and plato as holding to you can reject that philo and plato hold an identical
doctrine of cen creation x nino but you still can’t reject that the eternal perfect one is
not something already dominant by paul’s time this is so bad this is when i decided i gotta
this has got to make a video i got because you know dan you can you can go after loaf low hanging
fruit tick tocks all day long but as soon as someone comes along and challenges you you get
quiet because he because he never responded to that last post about what i said bro you were
wrong and i was right the sources he never responds to that he’s done talking after that
but one of his um colleagues jason staples who’s a big time by biblical scholar big time biblical
scholar he came along jumps out of the woodwork and says dan i am exceedingly unpersuaded by that
last statement what is the evidence that christian monotheism yeah by the way everyone knows what he
means by that so who gives a how you define this word i knew what he meant by that
the idea that the christian god is the high god qualitatively different from everything else
requires curatio ex nihilo it certainly isn’t logically syllogistically required so his own
melancholy comes in and fucking checks his ass and so dan dan does respond to him but not me
he says the enlightenment christians who coin we’re already we’re already back in the enlightenment
again the enlightenment christians who coined the term treated the notion of matter existing
eternally independent free and irreconcilable with monotheism as have most christians since then
then scholars started arguing creation ex nihilo isn’t in the bible and things changed what the
fuck was that you just dodged the whole question nobody gives a we’re not talking about how to
define monotheism we’re not talking about what enlightenment christians decided the monotheism
was we’re talking about paul and what paul believed in god does it require creation next
knee hello or no it doesn’t if you knew the sources this would be a done deal we’re done
but you’re just completely dodged that question so and then he says so is it monotheism for
christians has always required creation next needle look you could tell he’s confused what
the or just since the enlightenment i’m a little confused here or is it just the term monotheism
itself we’re talking about no that’s it dan never responds to that never he he he’s done he just
taps out he just pretends it never happened he’s gone you know how dan responds to everything on x
or on tick tock doesn’t he can respond to i’m on today why is he still hasn’t responded
to this so this is the last thing i said and i left it alone after this i said dan are you all
right should we get you some help talk about gish galloping holy moly you keep going off into areas
that have nothing to do with anything that was said by the comment or my response to you none
of this has anything to do with paul and first century middle platonism we can play a defined
monotheism game all we want at these stupid conferences that no one cares about i certainly
don’t care about them i don’t care how you define monotheism i don’t give a all i care about
is what does the text say we can play definition games all we want i don’t care it’s stupid that’s
why i think your uh dissertation was stupid about religion i think it’s dumb who cares
none of that will change what happened in the past and rewrite what people believed
so again for the fifth time based on what every single person who studied 101 ancient philosophy
and theology already knows why does the belief in a perfect eternal one distinct from other daemon
slash deities require coratio x nihilo the answer is it doesn’t and anyone who actually reads the
primary source about this period could tell you this dan never replied tapped out done gave up
because he knows he’s done and that’s the end of that story wow okay now for those of us who
okay we gotta call the match and uh what we see and we’re gonna say it like it is here in the
museum by the way 540 people are watching this right now yeah no thank you for the people who
are coming new people lady babylon um yeah and by the way to the guy that we executed accidentally
chewy be better with your blaster um what you’ve done is i really really like the fact that you’re
drawing it all back to those primaries and this is the real problem when dan wants to erect a
boundary between christians and non-christians living at the very same time or jesus and those
people around him um this is what the theology has given us it’s tan it’s tamped down you know julian
do you think julian was right after all that you know as a means of calm down um after the fight
which by the way it was gruesome brah it was gruesome remind me to bring you along you can
you can you know we can watch each other’s back uh i appreciate that and you’re flying with uh
some serious skill so um thank you for being a participant um but uh tell me this um
Is there something in the theology degree? Is there something in the religious history degree? Is there something in the fabric of the discipline that causes you to produce somebody who’s going to make big assertions without really looking at evidence?
um you’re tell me this is what i’m asking this is what i want your uh perspective on
you’re coming at these sources new in the last couple of years right and you have managed to
saturate i don’t know how much time you sleep but you’ve managed to saturate yourself um when
you’re throwing things listen to your listen to you talking about plato tonight that was fantastic
like, Timaeus, God, I’m like, I wanted to find the exit, like, oh, I hope he didn’t call on me,
right, you know what I mean, so nice job, nice job, gorgeous job, and kudos to you for that,
and that’s all that matters, at this Lady Babylon Dojo, that is all that matters, that is executing
the art and i think that’s what um really stings me about guys like dan is that they um they bring
a an element of deception uh to the science and that and i think you’re a great warrior for that
uh for that reason uh so congratulations is there anything else you want to throw in there after
you know it’s not i think there’s a there isn’t there’s what’s evident in a lot of these academic
circles is there’s certain it may be not dogmas but like there’s certain atmospheres where
certain things are there’s ideas that are pushed easier than others does that make sense where
there’s a lot there’s some group think going on it seems like and it seems like it seems like
there’s some political layers there yeah and i’m not talking about one side being correct
politically at one side not being correct i don’t care if i might agree with his politics but that
should not determine how i look at the ancient past yeah you shouldn’t do that that’s that’s
that’s all that’s all it’s sloppy isn’t it it’s sloppy and you find that a lot unfortunately
through seminaries you find kind of sloppy work like that um i would uh thank dan for coming
tonight i really appreciate the fact that he’s been a guest and this has been um scrumptious
i look forward to any responses we get i i hope um for the for for the 586 people
yeah um who have come i i feel the burden and the weight uh the responsibility of giving you
um something that’s worth your time and i hope that tonight um you appreciate and accept
as a gift to you the vision of jesus the christ who is the drug using um child prostituting a guy
from a time when you couldn’t always get away with that kind of thing you may get crucified
before that kind of stuff um and the drugs thank you for following the drugs the dark ages term
oh yeah what what were you saying by the way about who figured so my boys petrarch he’s one of the
he’s the one who coined the term in like the 1300s and then machiavelli used it bruno brumi used it
flavio used it it was big in the renaissance early renaissance right around the time constantinople
People were like this is some dark shit going on in the last thousand fifty in the last eight hundred something year
Whatever five hundred years and there look we know what they were doing
They were they were they were they were looking back at the classical antiquities classical sources of antiquity
They’re looking back at Ovid and Virgil and Homer and since and and
Aristotle and Hypatia who’s the real martyr not the fake martyrs that they’ve made fake legends about and
and uh sappho and all these amazing texts that we got euripides all these amazing plays that we got
all the mystery religions that people believed in that’s what that’s that’s what machiavelli
was saying he’s saying everyone’s atheist now this is before nietzsche forget about nietzsche
machiavelli was saying the same nietzsche was saying he was saying why is it everyone nobody
even believes in this anymore it’s all just like fake people believe in religion back in
in the ancient roman days people look forward to the next roman festival of magna mater people look
forward to the games of apollo people look forward to the dionysian uh uh bacchic revelries and the
saturnalias every month there was a new festival to look forward to they’re in now you got easter
and christmas yay no one gives a and so they’re they’re called it the dark ages and i
know um what’s that scientist’s name oh um he got in trouble he got in trouble for
for bringing that term up dark ages and all the all the academics were like bad bad that’s a bad
term you don’t use that no you’re not allowed to use dark ages anymore and uh you’ve been around
academics now and you’ve been interacting with them by the way you also interacted with a great
the scholar who works in Haifa right and he worked with Finkelstein from Tel Aviv
and the dude who was on the Megiddo dig oh god god what gorgeousness and what
was he can you just give the audience a punchline of that because you kick oh I
got a clip actually okay oh you have a clip I’ll play it play it all right this
is actually a good this would actually be a good uh this is this is all right i’m gonna stay tuned
from my channel coming out in the next day or two probably in the next two days something like that
i have the full video of this clip um and you see it in the archaeological record so clearly there’s
nothing before and every and it starts after um that i think it’s i mean it’s really hard to
yeah to argue with that this is what i’ve been saying for as long as i started to discover some
of this information um and then obviously we get the septuagint translation coming a little bit
later but it doesn’t seem like the construction or the creation of the genesis for example let’s
just take genesis by itself doesn’t seem to be have been constructed that much earlier maybe
less than a century before at some point um decades yeah you know
know do you hear what he said about virgil do you hear what he said uh he said decades if not
decades and by the way you notice how i wasn’t i wasn’t setting him up i wasn’t trying to put any
words in his mouth i was so liberal with how i handled that i’ll go hey when do you think the
trans i go when do you think the translation came about how century at least he said maybe decades
we’re talking somewhere between 300 and 270 is when we get the torah according to a leading
professor at haifa university and i can i just say i told you so you’ve been saying it and yeah
no he’s he’s right on it and um yeah good you know what it’s nice that’s so uh inspiring to
see a scholar out there who’s willing to say exactly how it is even though hey you know what
that means right i mean that’s neil that’s uh that’s an atomic bomb if he’s got a book that
guy so stay tuned for my podcast with him two and a half hours long all we’re talking about
is dating yeah he calls it yahwism yahoo from the elephantine we talk about elephantine yahwism how
all polytheistic there’s no moses there’s no abraham there’s no noah there’s no jacob there’s
no david anywhere for a thousand years before 300 bc and then then he says hecateus is up there as
the first person to ever mention moses everything we’ve both been saying for on this on your channel
on my channel for the last year and two years he says it right he his own we his his his work is so
separate than us how is it that he’s coming to the exact same conclusions as you and me
because we’re reading the sources the science only works one way you don’t come to two different
conclusions when you have you when you run the certain tests with the same evidence it’s amazing
that um people didn’t you know don’t realize that classical philology study of uh ancient greek and
latin that’s a very scientific discipline you don’t you know what he said it’s so first thing
he says in that clip it is so clear there’s nothing before he met and he’s talking about
300 bc he’s talking about the year when he said before he meant the library of alexandria because
we were just talking about that right before that clip he goes it’s so clear there’s nothing before
the library of alexandria and then all of a sudden after the library of alexandria you get all these
bible texts everywhere and all of a sudden synagogue stuff by the way the oldest synagogue
and the archaeological record is like 175 bc i was there the oldest one yeah you know second
second century um uh greek it’s all greek that’s there that’s all they’ve got left is the greek
because they didn’t have any hebrew right and people are always shocked by the way speaking
about dan he’s he tells people that the biblical story becomes historical during and but at the
time of david which means king solomon who had all these wives and concubines the richest man
in the world who had all these lands and territories we should where’s the evidence
of that why do you mean historical what the f what that um i i ran up his only book that he
has out his only peer-reviewed book uh yahweh’s divine images and one of the i read it one and
it’s like right in the first chapter he’s dating the biblical he’s dating the bible to like 700 bc
he is in that book yeah that’s guess guess who published that book sbl sbl okay got it okay now
i understand yeah i hope they made some cash on their on their uh deception um yeah um yeah okay
i was gonna say something it just kind of fled my mind um it i’m kind of overwhelmed because uh
it’s you know with the megiddo dig um and uh your professor from haifa he knows
uh um he knows finkelstein right yeah um um yeah anyway with that dig they were saying at megiddo
aren’t you on that dig yeah i was and what they were saying from uh the season that i was there
at least um what they were saying is that one of the layers was solomon’s right this is solomon’s
way station and this is where they take tolls and there’s no right that stuff’s all made up
it’s all made up right that’s why when they dug down to the canine floor i was like yeah that’s
part of our video we talked about we said that’s another thing gad was saying he goes we used it
from second and first temple period what does that even mean it’s all based on the bible not
there is no first and second temple period by the way herod what is that the third temple then
why don’t we call this the temple that fell in 70 that’s the third temple and it’s not even like
poppy the great sex temple in 63 bce the temple’s gone after that they had to rebuild it after the
there’s like there’s a whole bunch of temple periods but we don’t but we only say first and
second why because that’s what the bible says yeah it’s like an infiltration because when you say
this is us and we are different just like dan was doing tonight this is us christianity um and we
are different from everybody else around us um then you can treat your scholarship that way and
your history can come out completely just a bastardized form of reality and it’s been in
those periods when people discover the source right when you go back to the source and you
know what i’m talking about neil you’ve been there right you worship the muse baby it’s those sources
that are everything those sources are everything so yeah i’m gonna throw it i’m gonna throw it to
you then and i’m gonna say hey um give me your last thoughts on the evening um it’s been an
interesting week we’ve had a lot of things going on um give me your last thoughts and we’ll throw
it to the um chewy if you can get any questions that you want to bring up bring them up but go
ahead oh man i think we need to uh if there’s one thing i do agree with dan on is the the notion of
serving religion religion serving this class of protestants and catholics and orthodox christians
needs to go as if we’re still in the dark ages i’ll just say it like that because once we can
Bring back the idea that religion has to do with the reflection of the self, the inspiration of what we call the muse, the Dionysian spirit, the frenzy, the inspiration, the Bacchic mania, baby.
Get people fired up about something.
Artistic expression, as in the ancient Greeks and the ancient Romans and even the ancient Indians and all the way in the Hindus.
There’s a lot of ancient Africans as well.
bring back the ancient expression of the self as religion bring back the images again idolatry is
not evil the image bring an image of every single type of person that exists hermaphroditus
everything needs to be on a fucking as an altar to be worshiped an image that represents the self
not just one face of a bearded guy on a cross no we need to kill that that’s what religion
needs to be that’s what i’ll say talking about are you talking about cult or what are you talking
about yeah bring back local cults again mystery religions do it yeah people will actually have
something to believe in again instead of dogma instead of dogma right remember that term that
they had at the oracle of delphi what was that what was that phrase that was on the wall at the
oracle of delphi nothing south town right or was that yeah no that was on the apollo the typical
paula know yourself yeah yeah yeah love it uh bring back the image of the the virgin warrior
yeah those are the things that make people want to live yeah right the yeah the reality
the reality there’s a zeal now what do you say though what do you say though neil hang on
what do you say because people are saying in the comments and stuff and i hope people in the chat
we can talk about this too um but people are saying there’s you know demon possession and
things are you know people are talking about pray for dan and you know that group is assembling what
do you think about that wait what’s it pray for dan yeah pray for dan you haven’t seen comments
to say pray for dan i wasn’t looking at the comments but no no there’s there’s yeah no oh
i’m sorry no pray for danny pray for danny right pray for danny jones because he’s interacting
with demonic forces of the devil oh my god it’s so danny my interview with danny’s coming out next
week so oh by the way by the way for the for the 561 people who are watching who are new or a lot
of them are new because it jumped up about 300 since the last since before the danny interview
which by the way congrats on you because and for for really doing good in that interview anyways
danny talked for the first we talked for three and a half hours the first whole hour was just
about what you said it was me responding to your interview without even seeing it just kind of
feeling out what danny was telling me that you were talking about so it is kind of a part two
in a way it is kind of a part two to yours good good good i mean it sounds like it’ll be a nice
bridge um uh that’s that’s gorgeous and i’m you know what that is look what’s going on man that’s
collegial uh advancement in science baby that’s what you’re doing you’re talking about tax and
you’re talking about looking at tax and then translate oh speak speaking of text one more
text before we go one more text before we go i got on the bottom remember remember we were talking
about the idea of the the whole the mark 14 theory that you that are the mark 14 reading as you would
call it actually has some evidence behind it the pgm is a contemporary text with the gospels and it
tells you to enough to to to helios wrap a naked in linen a scene done right from head to toe clap
your hands ringing your noise and it says says adonai elua yahoo sabboeth what is the words
that jesus says on the cross eloha eloha sabbath so there is an argument is a solid slam good
argument i think to be made that this could be some sort of this could be some sort of magical
text going on i’m just saying i just opened up a whole new can of words right there no no you know
neil i’ve got a whole book of christian early christian magic somewhere and um those texts i
think a lot of them are coptic um but yeah no seeing the use of the magic there are a lot of
naked boys that you’re going to find running around in a lot of weird like that magical text
20 like that there’s like 20 of them like that
i’m so glad that you brought me those naked boys tonight i appreciate it anyone anyone
know where i can see a copy of the performance of mattia they got him excommunicated now technically
who is that milo um milo uh let me tell you this um i wasn’t excommunicated because in order to be
excommunicated you got to be communicated and i was not communicated so they couldn’t
excommunicate me um they could just fire me and um that’s what happened um by the way that
performance of medea oh it’s absolutely delicious to have it i i just want to i’m glad you brought
it up because this one says imagine just imagine this from a chorus of catholic college girls
dressed in leather with dildos pointed at priests who had been accused of being pedophiles
oh my god that was the sexiest um the monsoon no no i want to tell people what the effect of
that was historically because i want this down somebody writes this down um the effect of those
performances right so we’re giving these performances uh during the school year right
and uh for the theater department and it’s a big project and it’s just gloriously done very
professionally handled outstanding work right all around um costumes are oh god they’re gorgeous
and um so in the midst of all of this in the midst of all of this there’s a there’s a chemistry
that’s going on between the stage and and the audience that’s perceiving the play and that
chemistry could be felt in the seminary the seminary servers skyrocketed with porn porn
the furies those catholic girls brought out the fury and all the servers porn warnings
right because they monitor all that stuff right when was this this is when i was at st mary’s and
And I one of my students was the Monsignor who was in charge of college, though, right?
Yeah. St. Mary’s University. Right.
In Minnesota. And the person that was one of my students was also the Monsignor who was involved in, you know, overseeing when bad things happened, you know, and making them right.
or at least you know making sure that the train got going somewhere to rightville
right he was a former navy guy you know i absolutely loved him i absolutely loved him to
death um great guy and you know what he would have um he would have been if he didn’t become
a vicar general he would have ultimately um in another life he would have been in the museum
and he would be standing next to next to the poets neil you know what i mean um so anywho
that was totally unrelated but I want people to
Enjoy all the demon possession stuff all of these at these emails are fantastic the people look
I’m a real priest and this guy’s really possessed or look. I’m a shaman
I like the ayahuasca wrote and he’s like this guy is totally possessed, right?
so
Yeah
we’re gonna we’re gonna get the Greek Plato said being possessed is the highest form of
of a state you can be in that pocket mania baby yeah exactly exactly it’s gonna be you know
the other day um that’s the holy spirit when you when you see by the way this just blows my mind
when and you know who wrote a lot about this was carl karenyi uh an early religion scholar of the
from the 19 to hundreds to 1940s i think somewhere in between there early early to middle first half
of the 20th century i’ll just say that and he was friends with carl jung they co-wrote books
together actually i have it right this guy this book right here is co-written by carl young and
karl kareni essays on a science of mythology and they talk about look when you when you see these
snake handling christians speaking in tongues and going shaking because they have the holy spirit
that’s bakic mania they’re adopting that from the greeks this is an ancient ancient idea from the
mystery religions that’s being passed down all the way until today totally totally totally and you
And, you know, the Christian community is going to have to face this more and more as the knowledge spreads.
They’re going to see their own origins and they’re not going to like what they see.
And the naked boy, the naked boy is just that cherry on the top of the cupcake of doom.
So let me finish with that and tell people Chewy wanted me to let you know that we’ve got things.
They’re going to start getting rolling with Amen U, a place where people can come and can learn and can be enlisting in basically taking a lot of ancient Greek dope and growing your brain in a warrior’s way.
This is, and let me tell you something. I have so many students, so many students who
entered into the same initiation I did. The ancient Greek gets into your brain and it starts
changing it. And it gives you vision. It gives you vision in a way that you can’t do with the
Anglo-Saxon. I don’t know. Some, not all of us are, not all of us are created equal in the world
of of language oh life’s rough it’s survival of the fittest and greek greek made it to the top
and then squashed everybody else around her just oh god athena you’re so sexy right by the way i
remember carl sagan yeah rest in peace carl sagan he’s the one who stuck his neck out great
scientist of our time he stuck his neck out and said the dark ages was a real legitimate term
and i’m standing by it and he got in trouble for that i haven’t heard a scholar say he did damage
for saying that on the show on his show look it up it’s on youtube the episode one of cosmos
from a show from the 1990s or 1980s or something old show it’s called cosmos and he opens up the
show brilliantly talking about uh uh eratosthenes and plato and aristotle and and archimedes and uh
uh all these amazing writers from these from these type from mathematicians and scientists
figuring out this movement to the stars and all this and the death of hypatia and the
alexandrian library and then he uses the term dark ages that followed it and they were like
He did damage for saying that that was mean
You shouldn’t have said that that’s not that’s not a legitimate term to use anymore. Nope. I agree with carl sagan
I got I got carl sagan’s back
And I and I i’m gonna stick with it. Look at look at what what have you become?
You have become some kind of renaissance
Uh, i’m expecting you to ride out soon with like armor or something. I would be like, oh god
um seriously
seriously i am so impressed um and i’m a little bit set back let’s end on this i’m a little bit
humbled tonight because neil i gotta confess to you i don’t do the i don’t do some of those
sources like you’re doing like machiavelli i was like oh you know right so hey yo this course
is you know what you you know what this is which is on livy it’s amazing okay you know what everyone
talked about the prince eh boring yeah his discourse is on livy that’s a that’s an amazing
text i will do i will do and look people what’s look people what’s happening look what’s happening
this is a dojo this is a place this is a renaissance dojo and that’s what i really
really wanted with lady babylon everybody who’s new thank you for coming you’re all sexy
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hail satan
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magic even stronger than the drugs to sell
are the songs
the magic fleece
darkness through dreams
an animal skin
with the song of the queen
written there with magic ink
Guarded by a dragon in the grave
Of Mars on the east side of the Black Sea
Dragon venom from the god with horns
I am being ionic
Watch the image, Jude’s letters in Greek
Cornucopia, Ouroboros, Cleo, Medea and Bacchus
The dragon venom will knock him back
Phase interferometry
Traces floating
Crazy eyes
Drinking purple mead and whiskey
With Lady Medea
Straight out of Babylon
Venus with a penis
Gold horns of Alexander
Hit you with the Mandelbrot set on the DMT
Way up the LMNOPs
Slang, what words will it mean?
Dragon venom of darkest dreams
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