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Season two opens with Medea, and Ammon Hillman is angry. A high-school student asked him where to study women in antiquity, so this episode takes on the way that history has been told. He quotes Mary Beard, who says ancient women had no real political or economic power. His answer is one rule: read the primary sources, not the modern lattice built on top of them.
The sources, he says, tell a different story. There is Angitia, the snake-bite healer worshipped in Italy, whom ancient writers connected to Medea. There is the thirteen-year-old Scythian queen found in full armor with poisoned arrows. And there is the word iatrine (ἰατρίνη), the female physician, which may be the oldest word for doctor. Priestesses, oracles, midwives, root cutters, witches, and maenads fill out the picture Beard leaves out.
Hillman closes with a list of women the Greeks treated as oracles — Io, Europa, Medea, and Olympias, the mother of Alexander, who communed with Zeus-Amon as a serpent. The point is asked like a question: whose reality are you following? He argues that the ancients worshipped the Virgin, the Great Mother, and that the evidence shows up only when you go to the sources themselves instead of the reputations standing in front of them.
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Take me to that happy hour I never had.
Show me the girl I never met I wanted so bad.
Where is that golden palace?
Is that home destiny?
I think she ran on without me.
Welcome to season two of Lady Babylon’s Satanic Initiation.
Tonight we will get a glimpse into the personal. We’re going to look at a woman
learning the history of women. We don’t have much time so I’ll make it brief.
Tonight I want you to know that I had a request sent to me this week, one of many
student requests, of a person looking for someone to guide the research of a
sophomore in high school on a paper on the history of women in antiquity, in antiquity. She sent the
request to me specifically and not to other instructors on the place that I teach. I wrote
her back swiftly and with determination because I was asked as a graduate student to come into
the women’s studies classes and to teach some women’s studies from the sources that i work with
the medical sources pharmacological the magic to bring those sources forward and show people
so this is great opportunity for me to teach to advance who else would not want to learn
in the email that I sent her back, I made it very clear that what she needed and that what I could
provide, see if I was a good fit or not, was the sources that harbor these images of the ancient
woman and who she is, the sources themselves. We don’t want that lattice that’s built up
on scholarship. Scholarship, great scholarship, modern scholarship on women. We’ll look at modern
scholarship on women by talking about, quoting Mary Beard, who many of you have probably heard of.
She’s associated with the classics department, or she was at one time, I don’t know if she still is,
uh cambridge um so a scholar of scholars um so before we quote mary and bring her into this brawl
my object is to teach you the sources if you’re my student to give you the sources that you can
work with them via the instrument that i use namely the ancient greek this is standard classics
protocol for this is what we do we translate um anyway um mary beard mary beard how can she help
me now to be able to give these the next generation of women the history of women
sadly the responsibility can fall short of the deliverance if we turn aside from the primary
sources. People want to give you theories, and this is where our public safety announcement
comes in today. People will want to give you theories, and theories are a whole, there’s a
market of them, and they drive an economy of scholars, academicians. You will always have
them with you. Whatever society you’re in, these people will exist, and their system is driven
by their ideas. Their system is driven by their ideas. The problem is we come to the museum
where we hold sacred the muse. We do not hold forward ideas or theories. We look at the words.
We look at the last material expressions that we have surviving from these cultures.
that’s what we look at i don’t want you to have to go to a back alley with a stranger i don’t want
you to tonight’s question is who who is the one who is to be believed is it the bald guy with the
tattoos or is it the cambridge professor who is also of high ranking uh of value within british
aristocratic society yes who’s more believable than that yes yes the dame or the dude with the
shaved head so you can be deceived you can think that you’re getting a source that’s a legitimate
source and that’s that person can tell you anything then if you’ve fallen into the trust
oh it’s okay i trust you what we do here is we insist upon our sources we insist upon our
sources don’t tell me what your ideas are tell me what the sources say can we bring up the quotes
from mary beard yes there is at first sight a rather impressive array of powerful female
characters in the repertoire of greek myth and greek storytelling in life ancient women had no
formal political rights. They had precious little economic or social independence. And in some
cities like Athens, respectable married women were almost never seen outside the home. Anytime that
you have a generalization, I mean, how do you judge whether any of this is accurate? Anytime
you have a generalization about antiquity, you’re talking about two millennia of time,
and you’re talking about dozens and dozens of independent cultures. Oh, my goodness. To say
that, to give a generalization, it doesn’t matter what it’s about. Now, this happens to you all the
time if you’re in church. It happens to you in church because remember, this is how it starts.
This is how you end up in the back alley, okay? So I’m telling you, these are the lines that start
the process. In biblical times, everybody sat on their hands all lunch and whistled Dixie. Yes,
you might believe that from an authority. You might believe that. But if you hear the
generalization, realize generalizations never hold up in history. They never hold up. You can talk
about cycles. You can talk about repetition. You can talk about trends. But you cannot hold a
generality up. Anytime a scholar comes to you and says all blanks did this, you know that they have
an agenda to push. Something’s being pushed. When I taught the section of the women’s studies course
that I taught. I brought all the concrete in. I want you to see these women. These are the women
I want you to see from antiquity. Give us the list of women, please. Yes. Starting with women. Yes.
Who else do we bring you? You need to see midwives. You need to see the teachers. You need
to see doctors. You need to see priestesses. You need to see queens. Menads. Let’s throw them in
too. Why not a social club here or there? Fantastic. Anybody else? Oh, of course, the witches.
The witches. Let’s not forget the witches because everything is coming from the witches. It’s all
coming back from the witches. Our line through the cave here is the pharmacology. It’s the
pharmacology. Bring up the second quote of Mary Beard, please. Yes. Athenian drama and the Greek
imagination has offered our imaginations a whole series of unforgettable women. Names like Medea,
Clytemnestra, or Antigone, among many others, can still ring a loud bell for us. They are not,
however, role models for anybody. Far from it. Please pull up. Now, again, you’re sitting there,
you’re sitting there, and you’re saying, these are the words of wisdom from Cambridge,
from the island itself that breeds all of those such intelligent creatures comes this voice,
this oracular voice of Mary Beard. And Mary Beard tells us something about women. And now I don’t
know whether to believe it. Now I don’t know. Are these people not to be, were they intentionally
written as not to be admired? That’s what she’s saying. It’s odd. And okay, let’s just get in our
spaceship and let’s go back in time let’s go to italy let’s go to the marcy the culture uh um
that develops near um the temple of angitia and who is the temple who is angitia this is angitia
um and who is who who’s angitia she is the one who brings the healing to us she is the one who
brings the healing. She is the one who cures us of the snake bites. She is the one who knows
all of the pharmacology. Who is this person that showed up in Italy and gets worshipped as a woman?
Forget about, what did you say, property or political rights? When people are building
temples to you, this is a kind of power that has nothing to do with your estimation, your modern
anachronistic estimation of feminine power yeah yeah feminine power that’s on githia and who do
our sources tell us that on githia is you know it it’s medea says her son ruled there he ruled there
yes she visited coming from her uh uh union with another with the greek prince yes they set up
society they set up authority yes and she is where this is before an entire group an ethnic group
living around the black sea decided to call itself after its queen the 13 year old city and queen
in full armor is a beautiful they just they just dug up is a beautiful beautiful refutation
of everything that mary beard said yes beautiful refutation the chief the most powerful the
greatest yes full armor arrows probably poison nice nice and where are they perfecting all these
poisons insidia right with the with the mobile tribes of horsemen yeah and their royal lines
yes fantastic greek influence african influence gorgeous it’s edin it’s eden nice um let’s uh go
ahead put flash mary beard’s picture up there because we don’t we wanted to give her credit
right that’s mary beard uh you can find her work on online yes now whether or not the person is
going to um let’s leave and get you up there whether or not the person is going to allow me
to teach a history of women based upon the physicians and the midwives and there is a
difference the iatrina is the female and it may actually be the oldest word for doctor
okay so is it probably coming from the midwifery yeah right and we know that the all the oldest
drugs are old um abortion drugs uh what are we gonna do about this abortion business right
if you’re going to talk about women in antiquity you better talk about abortion it’s a huge issue
maybe more so than you think because one out of three women dies in childbirth yeah so family
planning is serious it’s life and death yeah so um whether or not we’re going to get these images
brought to you will be determined by whoever wants to know the sources or the modern lattice
of scholarship that clouds over those sources right this puts an interpretation on something
that gives it a an agenda a movement this is meant to cause this and people these guys that
will come behind that will get you and take you behind the building they are from princeton and
they are from harvard they’re from oxford they’re from cambridge wow how did this happen the you
You know what’s funny?
Princeton’s program is imploding, right?
They just, they announced it,
well, it was six months ago maybe,
that they’re cutting their Greek program
because Greek is the language of the oppressor.
Yeah, that’s what they came up with.
You know, it’s their ideas and they’re throwing them around
and a hundred years from now nobody will care, right?
But we may have forgotten the text by then
and we may not have people trained
bring that out of the ground yeah to bring it to so you know you’re not being taken behind
the building if i’m giving you or anybody is giving you the actual sources if you are working
with the evidence at the crime scene that’s what that’s what matters and otherwise you should say
i don’t care and here’s that i don’t care moment thanks to zayn campbell can we cue that i don’t
care moment i don’t care about nothing today i’m going to do what i was going to do anyway
that is the scholars uh true truest emotion right we should care nothing those of us here should
care nothing about anything but the integrity of those voices of antiquity that’s what we should
care about um i would love it if mary beard would start reading some of the pharmacological sources
some of the medical sources some of the focusing maybe on some of the religious
cult sources some of the magic maybe there’s a whole area hymns you know those homeric hymns
those homeric hymns mary they’re about a lot of women so um we might want to consider that in the
Athens, the place that you so brilliantly told us was so repressive that you can walk to the
top of the hill, Mary. You can look into the temple and you can see the Virgin. You can see
the Virgin, Mary. That’s what we need to bring is the Virgin. Bring back the Virgin. Yes, if you
want to study ancient women, study the Virgin. You’d be fascinated. What are all these priestesses
doing? Oh my goodness. What are these oracles? Mary, the oracles. What are the oracles doing?
Mary, those oracles are women. You know that, Mary. You know that. What are they doing? They’re
distributing the power of antiquity. Yeah, distributing the power of antiquity. Medea,
whom Mary Beard has decided is not worth emulation. In antiquity, her word was oracle.
Pindar, perhaps the greatest poet that the Greeks ever produced. Pindar preserves her oracle,
taken directly from the hands of the Pythia herself. Yes, these are not people to emulate.
these are not no no um in antiquity they were they were the um i want you to to make sure that you
your bible times are in the right place that we understand what when we’re in bible time water
i want to take you really quickly to eros i want to take you to a text tonight yes yes isn’t this
beautiful i’m going to read it just for a second kaisophos autodidactos eros iona nomeon protogonon
oh isn’t it um bring it off let me just translate let me just translate to you
yes and the wise self-taught god eros the one who administers the one who administers the ion
isn’t that nice the administer of the ion yes he pounds at the gates the dark gates
of the firstborn chaos readying or engaging himself in his bring up a text again
yes iodokin and for those of you who were here last week you’ll see io
on the front of iodokin is from eos let’s bring up iodokin please
um yep there we go oh nice holding arrows usually to describe a faretre right a you know you’re
we’re talking about quivers here right something that holds arrows um look at the second definition
though of that uh uh in that yeah yeah there we go a containing poison iodoque here is in the
feminine is that which is containing poison like the fangs right the odontes the teeth right
so it’s an instrument those arrows are an instrument eros think not not pudgy baby
right think of eros the primal right the one who brings everything with dark night into existence
that’s the figure we’re looking at he has his arrows his quiver full of his arrows that do what
they bring the godhead okay that’s important it’s giving them a label it does this with the drugs
the greek does this with the drugs as well what we saw the death bringing drugs right the early
death bringing drugs um here it’s the same thing his his arrows are labeled as the ones that bring
you the divine the ones that bring you the divine yes and he’s he’s got these um that he keeps and
on them are written in gold letters written in gold letters um these oyster bring us up the
oyster what are oyster an arrow look what the derivation uncertain now for those of you who
have been here a while you know that oysters oysters is just lacking that row there i told
you about the row that disappears like the digamma yes so there’s again an association you know we’re
building on a people and a culture and that culture was poison using arrow wielding peoples
um with queens with queens yes um and anyway eros goes on um with these arrows describing
a list of the 12 stars those 12 burning arrows 12 we’re in we’re in magic now in case you
realize we’ve crossed over uh-oh um we got to recognize what’s going on here where are we
it’s necromancers um so you’ve got the 12 arrows and he starts out of course with io io right io
um and we moved from io to europa yeah and then you realize oh wait a minute he’s composing a list
of these women just like herodotus did wait a minute wait a minute what herodotus made a list
of women who were being abducted they were being taken away from their homes and established
elsewhere as oracles yeah as io is literally in the oysters right that’s who she is so um
by the time that we have this list and it begins it begins with io and europa and by the way
medea is one of those mentioned in heronitus right he’s one of he um she’s one of those
yeah right up front and these are causing wars and whatnot so um this situations are causing war
these apparently these women are so important not to be emulated mary beard says but apparently in
antiquity they’re so important that people are starting wars over what they can do over their
capacity. Fantastic. Maybe it’s worth taking off your lens and
looking at it from their point of view instead of yours from
the last 2000 years forward. Right? Yeah. So here they are.
Here they are. And the last of the women on these lists, this
list is Olympias, right Olympias, whose Olympias the
mother of alexander right who under the possession of the burning purple communes with zeus himself
in the form of amon as a serpent right so um what do we have going on you have two very conflicting
images of antiquity. One of them is real, just based in sources. Just read the sources to
yourself. Don’t. Everything that I told you tonight is just directly stolen wholeheartedly
from the sources. Read those sources. If you read the modern, you’re going to get a version that
might not stand up to what the sources say. And to be honest, modern scholars have so let down
women’s studies. They have completely dropped the ball completely. If you knew half of what was
being investigated by just the witches, pharmacologists, sorceresses, magi, cults,
the Orphics, if you knew just a half of what they were working with, what they were experimenting
with you would be you would be shocked and you’d understand what the mystery was all about you’d
understand oh this is the performance of the mystery this is the performance of the mystery
yes so um my question to you tonight that i want to leave you with because we’re approaching
touchdown um is what reality are you following yeah whose reality is it if it has anything to
do with any dead people, you’re going to get lured into a corner. Controlling the information that
you are given about your reality has been happening as long as we have recorded written
history. It’s been happening. That’s why we follow Pythagoras. We form that museum. If we’re going to
set down a colony. We’re going to raise a colony. We’re going to bring civilization. We have to
raise that temple to the muse. Without that temple to the muse, we have nothing. And right here,
right now, we have access to everything. These documents are all there. We have access to them.
Cambridge, Oxford, they don’t have it wrapped up in a cabinet. They don’t. No, we have access to
it now so i would love an army i would love an army of women to start writing women’s history
i would love it i would love it and that way you don’t have to have me teach your daughter
you can teach her yourself confidently knowing it’s from the source but but um and i think this
is why london times said what i uh at the conference that i was at presenting they said
this work that i was doing was the last frontier of classics yeah it’s not just that it’s the last
frontier it’s that it’s what we have entirely missed that has skewed our understanding of
history so i would encourage you tonight i uh i would encourage you tonight to realize that what
you may be perceiving may be a a a mechanism of control a mechanism of control right go back to
the muse go to your sources work with the sources and if you want if you want the to get down to the
very dirt go to the instrument itself do not trust somebody because they have a name or a reputation
or a badge from an association right trust them if they’re dead trust them if they’re dead
Yes. If you drag up an ancient Roman, bring him in, pull up somebody from, I mean, the mind. Can you imagine the effrontery, the bold brashness of saying that this woman who was hailed as an oracle, who has had temples built to her, who raised and lowered entire kingdoms.
this wow to say that um to present you with an image of the world i think it’s i think it’s
really why jehovah lies in the very beginning remember jove or jehovah he tells them right
off the bat this is no good if they eat it they’re gonna have their eyes open and they’re
gonna be like us knowing good and evil yeah they shouldn’t be like that right we know right tell
it’s going to kill them the devil says it’s not going to kill you you’re just going to have your
eyes open and then what does the text say they had their eyes open it follows along the text follows
along with the with the proposition that the lie is coming from jehovah trying to stop them right
just no good no good he’s been a liar from the beginning from the very beginning and i think
that’s what i think that’s what the problem is when you fight for jehovah when you fight for
that thing that you they’ve identified as modern scholars have identified as such a terrible
patriarchal source um yeah uh you’re going to come up against that lie yeah the fruit was good guess
what she ate it and she was smart and she did a lot of good things and we made statues to her and
No, we aren’t misogynists.
Yes, we are worshipers of the Virgin.
Yeah, Magna Mater.
You know, there’s a connection.
I’ll finish with this.
Angizia there that I showed you and her worship in Italy.
Yes, yes, that’s connected with Bonaddea.
And all of a sudden, when you say Bonaddea, you say, oh, my God, that’s central Roman religion, right?
the rights of bona dea with um what are they doing with the wand the alabaster that they’re using in
their women’s only rights yes yes medical medical think medical religious yes these are the things
this is the this is the environment that we need to come to now in order to see uh um the reality
we get back on our ship and we come back home and now if you want to believe what mary beard
has given you at least you have some ancient sources to contradict what the modern scholars
are saying right never trust the secondary work never it’s just somebody’s opinion it’s just
somebody’s opinion trust the primaries rule with the primaries promote the primaries and i guess
now i see that rob has come rob please tell us from the great island upon which you sit
your impression of you know the dangers is this a good time to have a public safety announcement
about the dangers of these oxfordians and gringians of coming into our society and taking
out our children taking them into back alleys and doing things to them that are unacceptable
what is with the island now is this is this me is or is my indignation righteous oh you’re gonna
love it you get season two and you can’t do without me can you um is that the same is that
a new shirt that’s that’s because i was thinking is he gonna wear the same season yeah no no
rob this is you’ll always see me is there a problem with my shirt rob this shirt is important
there’s no problem the same same look so we’re talking about a local girl she’s from shrewsbury
there’s mary and i’m willing to bet it’s bad i do i do like beard but i’m willing to bet
it’s mary bad yeah yeah she’s a local girl and um my phone would collapse on me at the
what’s it right time once it’s but um do you think she might be an oracle by any chance um
yeah and excuse me miss baird however you pronounce it um we’ll uh um excuse me if i’ve
mispronounced your name but um do i think that she’s an oracle yeah what are you what are you
smoking did you are you here for the last 20 minutes well well you know what usher come get
this man do you know what she’s wrote in 1989 she wrote the good working mother’s guide did mary
bad that’s it like so isn’t oracle a good working mother would you think um yeah no i still i’m
sorry i’m sorry but the whole thing no the whole insult to medea she could have written i could
have written every everything in the world um if uh for that premise to be so off uh about women
in antiquity it taints it’s like uh i can’t um you know john scarborough john scarborough the
well-known john scarborough told me he said don’t don’t you that secondary literature is going to
mess with your mind it’s going to mess with your mind i want the sources i want the sources mary
beard is another is another secondary source and it’s now i can’t oracle now my mind is blown let
me take you to another book that was i mean that’s 1989 that is so we’ve got we’ve got another book
which is um pagan priests religion and power in the ancient world now what’s missing what’s
missing from that title pagan priests religion and power in the ancient world i suppose women
is missing maybe maybe maybe there’s some maybe there’s some women there so yeah you’re quite
correct she uh and she she because i knew she was coming up so i took the liberty of watching
watching a documentary on caligula you know so uh what what i took from that is she knows about
poisons she she mentions is emperors bumped off with poison mushrooms in which i was surprised
that she mentioned the mushrooms actually but she so uh all the people dropping dead with poison and
it seems i want i wonder where the poison’s made i wonder if she’s considered where’s that poison
made where’s it coming from uh where’s the root of that poison coming through because do you think
she might know seriously do you think no she knows intentionally no she knows suetonius she knows
suetonius that’s where she gets that reference yeah right and he knows he he’ll talk about
poison that but she doesn’t know the medical sources she doesn’t know i guarantee she doesn’t
know diaspority she doesn’t know scribonius largus right she may have heard diasporities but she
doesn’t read scribonius largus right and so how can we talk about cult drugs if she doesn’t read
the people that we’re talking about cult drugs this is this is a fact modern day classicists do
not study the medical side because it demands too much crossover so it’s their loss it’s their loss
tom jefferson didn’t care where do you suppose sorry where do you suppose she’s getting that
information from for the distinction as the poisons coming from mushrooms rather than
any other source because she’s got that distinction there with the mushrooms yeah
that’s that’s quite that’s quite interesting and also i was interested in the time
the time she’s talking about tell us mushroom because because this was written hundreds of
years after apparently and it that this uh this story is uh of caligula is written 100 years after
by the by the source isn’t it and i’m wondering about the time frame have we got saint john
drinking poison at the same time you know john saint john saint john i don’t know of a source
that talks about saint john drinking poison but it doesn’t mean it’s not out there he was offered
poison in a in a chalice won’t he and there’s there’s images of him out there and he’s holding
a chalice with a snake in a cup in a chalice and and as the story goes as he drinks the whole
the whole measure and it doesn’t affect him in the slightest is this is this later medieval is
it byzantine do you remember what this is i i never heard that one yeah but there’s a lot of the
a lot of the gnostic and a lot of the coptic stuff out there the gospels that that yeah
when you go through images and you get john up on images you’ll you’ll find one with it and like it
just adds to the snakes everywhere snakes everywhere you go into researches snakes
serpents everywhere littered literally tinted all around so she knows she knows she knows
she knows about the poisons in my opinion there’s mary bad so do you want to listen to her honors
list i mean this honors list is you talk you talk about credentials and have you got any credentials
and you know what i’m like i go through these credentials and i noticed this princess of
asterius award she’s won a princess of asterius award and i just got you know i’m looking out for
the st sigma tau root i am in there and do you do you get any shorter impression from that that that
prince ever princess of asterius award does that no no that doesn’t do that doesn’t again rob it
doesn’t do anything for me once you’ve shown me yeah that she can read suetonius that’s great
once you’ve shown me that you’re going to talk about an area that you know nothing about
right that you’re not bringing the medicine into that you’re not talking about women who are in
these positions and then you have the effrontery to bring up medea and say that she is represented
as somebody that you would not you would not want to be i i i cannot i don’t care if she’s from the
royal society of the throne of satan i don’t care if she’s got burning purple on her coat of arms
anymore we’ve now violated the muse right she’s not going to those sources she’s supposed to be
a classicist she’s supposed to do this to make a statement like a flashed up there right that
it it’s unforgivable it’s in in the world of the real it’s unforgivable i mean she’ll go on with
her career and everything’s fine and people will read it and they’ll think yes and maybe some of
them will think oh my god she’s part of the society society of hysteria and none of it will
matter because we’ll miss the friggin sources rob we’ll miss the sources and that’s that’s uh that’s
what needs to be pounded right why are we not doing that we have the opportunity to do that
what other accolades do we do you want to talk about i i have a suspicion though is they don’t
you say they don’t read the sources but they must be aware of the sources and ignore the sources and
not include the sources for for a reason there’s a reason there why like in in professor rook’s
situation you know you pay a price for revealing some of the sources at times don’t you yeah you do
and and uh there are things that people don’t want to talk about nobody wants to talk about magic
right it’s maybe the last few years has started to become more popular but um when i was doing
my degree program uh you know there was one or two people in the country working on it in the
us that’s it um which is funny because because you have far more magic than you have just about
every other genre so yeah so why aren’t people studying it well it’s because we’ve lived through
2 000 years of christianity and um uh it’s anti-sorcerer anti-satanist uh uh uh you know
you know power power and yet still 330 000 people getting abused right um we we need the facts we
need the facts i don’t think she’s i i don’t think anything my difficulty is not with mary beard my
difficulty is with separating our sacred our sacred duty to the sources and our desire to
be looked upon and loved and cherished as a genius and here’s the documentary on blah you know i i did
a documentary too they based on my book right and it’s a it’s a a a sinkhole it’s a sinkhole of um
me-ism right it’s a sinkhole of me-ism that documentary should be there not for the glory
of the individual right or for the professorship or for the seated chair of so-and-so or the
distinguished visiting scholar of so-and-so it should be access in the museum it should be what
you see when you walk up in the museum you see access to the sources right away that’s what we’re
supposed to do with classics that’s what tom jefferson did right and that’s not what has come
out of classics if there’s a um if we’re fighting tyrants it’s probably a good reason that there’s
probably a correlation with princeton just decapitating its own greek program right yeah
guess what that’s that’s what happens when you let that information go um yeah i know it was i know
it will sound like i’m being um awfully hard awfully hard do i sound hard to you right now
and i’m coming from a kind of sarcastic point of view it’s like dark sarcasm because because
there’s a where’s that one gone confronting the classics confronting the classics traditions
adventures and innovations you know is she confronting the classics i don’t think there’s
any confrontation in that is there personally and what you need to do is confront the classics with
this information that you have and that professor ruck has given us amongst others who would
wouldn’t dare wouldn’t dare step step foot into these realms where it’s basically you got your
you got your wrist slaps and step back don’t you is that is that this situation i really want to
know what the situation is the situation in this academic circle where where basic sources and
sources what are easily accessible and now now in our day and age now sources are accessible aren’t
me you didn’t you used to have to go to the library you used to have to go get order books
and it’d take a good while for do a good amount of research nowadays you can get that done on you
in your hand can’t you yeah so yeah and in these academic circles why is it the case that this is
taboo and we can not talk about it or discuss it not even raise it to up for discussion just even
by like intellectual people will not allow this to be subject of drugs then they’ve tried that
you change the word don’t you they’ll change the word to entheogen and we’ll change the words and
make it a little bit more acceptable to discuss and that’s done done that that’s done wonders
for the discussion changing the word other than drugs because as soon as somebody mentions drugs
it’s like oh no nobody does drugs don’t don’t do drugs drugs are bad it’s like yeah nancy reagan
period entities yeah i think it’s i think it’s the um the built-in anti-drug culture that we’ve got
but i think it’s also the fault of the it’s partially the fault of the academicians that
they don’t study certain fields um because their job is to carve out something that they can stand
on the top of the hill i was there right i lived with them i ate with them i worked with them
your job is to find some hill somewhere where you can distinguish yourself anybody else who comes up
the side of that hill you knock them down right these are my ideas this is my that’s no that’s
not what you need and you don’t need that from me or car rock or anyone else you need the sources
and now you have access to them if you want to look up these drugs you have diaspority sitting
there go look up the drugs go look up what the women are recommending you do with the drugs
go look up uh any any cases of abortion what happens look up the gynecologist find them you
can find them they’re out there right not out not all of it’s been translated yet not all of it’s
been translated and that’s the only that’s the only reason i say you’ve got to go to the instrument
you’ve got to have that instrument you’ve got to have that ability to pick up the new testament
and read it it’s the same for the seminarians if you can’t read that thing you don’t know what
those word means if you’re just going off and interlinear this is how they do seminaries they
give you the greek on one line and english english right above it boom well what are you doing then
you’re not really doing anything you are memorizing a pre-set definition let me give you
the example logos i hope this will uh i hope this will reach people logos because it’s common
everybody will translate this as word and everybody is wrong everybody is wrong a seasoned
classicist will tell you no logos doesn’t mean word that means an accounting or a reckoning
and this word flows through philosophy through pre-socratic philosophy it flows into an area
of specialty yeah where when somebody comes up and says in the beginning was the logos
you’re not going to understand what it means if you think it means a word you know you cannot
read those texts so when you come along as a pastor or as a classicist like mary beard if you
come along and you say oh i’m going to tell you what this means and you use that interlinear
translation and it’s not because you’ve been reading greek if you haven’t read plato as a
pastor if if you haven’t read hippocrates don’t tell me about luke don’t tell me a darn thing
about luke if you haven’t read hippocrates you don’t know what oh yeah you don’t know drugs
drugs again right if you don’t know those topics don’t talk about the frankincense
don’t talk about the magi if you don’t know who the magi were if you haven’t read cal if
your pastor hasn’t read chaldean philosophy chaldean philosophy chaldean incantations
then forget about it you’re not going to understand the magi you’re not going to
to know what that star was and you can have all the crazy ideas in your head you want but don’t
blame those original sources this is your fault you’re the one who sat there in the audience and
you listened to mary right you didn’t go back to those sources stand up ask mary give us the source
and why is it why does this source talk about a woman as a physician why does it talk about a
woman as a physician who’s this i thought women didn’t have any power and didn’t have any place
didn’t have any socioeconomic why are paul’s supporters all women wealthy women wait a minute
mary i thought in the great world of antiquity no no women had this ability they were all oppressed
do you hear what’s happening this is how stuff like fascism comes to rise right once you control
that information of history you control everything and i’m not saying i’m not saying robin i’ll get
off my podium now but i’m not saying you need i’m not saying that you uh uh you need to buy
what i’m selling never would you don’t need to buy me or carl rock you don’t need to you need
the sources you need to look at them yourself and figure out what they are you know figure out what
those people were saying we just dug up that we just dug up that 13 year old queen sitting queen
mean go to her as a source right that’s a source here she is preserved bones and armor yeah thought
it thought it was a boy didn’t they thought it was a man for years didn’t they they genetically
proved it was a girl yeah but for years they just assumed didn’t they I think they just assumed as
it was a male you know from from the report yeah and then they don’t they were sanctioned for do
dna analysis and that’s come through which was quite a surprise to him why do you think they
assumed it was a male i don’t know the the probably the size or the the because it’s the
armor the the arrows the you’d assume it’s a masculine trait wouldn’t you the traditional
hunter i’m guessing i think she’s got one bone bone headed arrow and the rest were bronze bronze
tipped arrows very interesting very interesting i wish there was a i wish there was a better means
of getting to to that source because you’re like on ancient origins and different various websites
that are just giving you like um a rundown there’s nothing i’d appreciate something like you can get
into it into the details what what what the analysis is i’ve seen some things like where
they’ve said and she had blue eyes and red hair and i’m thinking how do you know that how how do
figure that out i’ve no idea how they go about figuring something like that out no idea but
that’s what they come out with so well we don’t we still don’t know yet there’s still a lot of
analysis a lot of analysis that can be done on them arrowheads on the i mean you know you just
won’t get in there don’t you say can i can i have the test done on them arrowheads for yeah for this
chemical this compound this and see what we can get out of it because that do it wouldn’t it
wouldn’t that be like the shinker okay right that’s what we’ve got now that’s apparently
how they’ve been you know how ruck was vindicated was from those containers uh of the uh of the
communion of the kakaian right that yeah yeah fantastic you know i should get that vindication
and get that conclusive proofers yeah they were using arrow poisons i mean you’ve got it
documented it’s quite clear it’s quite clear it’s quite clear from listening to that documentary
from mary bed that those marketplaces selling poisons and venoms and it’s quite clear that is
it’s so accessible and people are using it left right and center then it it isn’t some black
market thing is it you’re going down the market and buying these things and you’re getting these
things made by various ingredients put together and that takes a skill that isn’t a skill an
emperor says it doesn’t just kill anybody around him that’s a skill that’s developed over time i
guess isn’t it yes and that’s one of the things that’s that’s one of the groups that mary missed
she missed the root cutters and those are women you know described as sorceresses right who are
involved in the drugs they’re called polypharmacon right they’re they have much drug knowledge those
root cutters are women euripides mother was a root cutter right what about her wait a minute
i thought euripides mother stayed in her house all the time right no she was a root cutter right well
what’s a root cutter and then all of a sudden you have a conversation for for a sophomore in
high school right of a a girl in high school she should hear this she should know what root cutters
are if she wants to know learn about ancient women or she can go to mary and mary can tell her
don’t worry about that they all stayed in their homes and it feels so much better for us to
righteously stand up and say oh look how bad these people were these oppressors
to create this fairy tale but the actual truth of the matter the reality is always more interesting
i’d love to see a book written on the root cutters i know mary’s not going to write a book on the
root cutters right but she’s into drama and we know that sophocles has a play called the root
cutters so maybe she’ll get on it i don’t know no probably not i’m being there i’m being i’m
too busy writing books about how much of a productive successful mother she is carrying to
you know look at me it’s too much of that rather than look at where we’ve look at our roots look
at where we’ve come from and where we can ascribe power to about our importance in society you know
it’s like look at me i can carry around a couple of children and do a degree you know how many
honorary degree what’s an honorary degree yeah how many honorary degrees she’s got from different
universities it’s scary what what is an honorary degree where you just do nothing and they just
give you the paperwork and so yeah you’ve got a degree in this university now because it’s like
loads of universities have given an honorary degree i wonder what the what do you think the
cost of an honorary degree is there’s something transferring there there’s some kind of yeah
how many do you possibly need because it’s a list it’s you know it’s just go on a wikipedia
it’s very simple might be a bunch of lies but doubt it but it’s a bunch of so it’s a big list
the answer and she’s a dame she’s a dame as well so that’s that that’s pretty much that’s an obe
that’s that’s that’s um order of the british empire that’s equivalent to being a knight that
is that’s a knighthood essentially good i’m glad i i’m glad i said that in terms of the knighthood
yeah that might have gone in there yeah and that’s the best that the british have to offer the world
is it not the knighthood yeah yeah i think there’s one above that you know i don’t know i don’t know
i don’t know all the i i know it happens twice a year there’s a list that’s get that gets um
constructed twice a year and they hand out these obeys and honors to all sorts of people
the world over yeah and um that’s why we should believe mary and not the guy not the guy with the
shaved head right within the satanic initiation don’t right she has the accolades she has
everything there i mean don’t get me wrong i got accolades too bro but but they’re but they’re not
they don’t stand up to the official steel seal and with such misinformation with such um a rape
of history because that’s what she’s doing in those two comments that’s what she’s doing she’s
raping history right she’s creating something that’s not she’s forcing something on history
that is not there um yeah it’s no qualification shouldn’t carry that information should it
shouldn’t carry that information and bolster it and support it with oh and i’m this by the way
you can’t you don’t contend what i’m saying because i’m a dame i’ve achieved these awards
and gone through these certain and it’s just like yeah why why can’t we just look at the sources
why can’t you be just equal to the next person and then we can evaluate the sources as equals
and get her own impressions from it that’s what you’re trying to facilitate isn’t it with
audience tell the audience this rob tell me if you think this is correct or way off it’s not the
people that have the accolades who carry the reality it’s the people that they burn first
and then set up to set statues monuments up to later right yep i think i think that’s very
accurate yeah we’ll end on we’ll end on that high note rob thank you for coming and representing the
island um your people your people are geniuses and i want i want you to maintain those traditions
so that we can be proud we can be proud thank you rob thank you thank you very much thanks for the
comments everybody and good night good night hail satan guys show me the girl i never met i wanted
so bad where is that golden palace where is that horse called destiny i think she ran without me
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