Bible Study – S5E2 – No Christian Messiah

Bible Study – S5E2 – No Christian Messiah

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Ammon Hillman begins with a split most readers never notice. Christ, he argues, is not the same word as Messiah. The Greek uses Messias (Μεσσίας) where it means the anointed one, and Christos (χριστός) is a much older word from the mystery religions. He reads Habakkuk in the Greek, where the prophet is called Ambakoum, and where a singer, the ōdē (ᾠδή), opens the oracle. The word he lingers on is Iacchos (Ἴακχος), the mystic name of Dionysus, found as early as the Linear B tablets.

The passage then turns dark. Habakkuk speaks of a vine of Sodom, and Hillman translates the Greek as a wine whose spirit is the thymos (θυμός) of serpents, the incurable poison of the asp. He reads this as the venoms of the cult, the same world where the Psalmist is given oxos (ὄξος) for thirst and where arrows are dipped in chole (χολή), the bile. The Greek word for poison, toxikon pharmakon (τοξικὸν φάρμακον), carries the bow inside it, and he ties the twang of the string to the songs of the temple. Bow, song, and remedy are one system.

The closing claim is the largest. The guest reads Aeschylus, where the gadfly oistros (οἶστρος) stings Prometheus, and where the verb chriō (χρίω) means to be stung, not simply anointed. That, they argue, is where Christos first appears, as the state of the gadfly-stung prophet, which Hillman calls oistromania (οἰστρομανία). He reports that Christos was a pre-Hebrew cult title, and that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the later offshoots of this older religion.

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Welcome back to Lady Babylon Wednesday night Bible study.
So fantastic to have you here tonight.
Tonight we’re going to just take a tiny, tiny whack at that fracture in space-time.
We’re just going to open it up a little bit.
All a part of our campaign to storm the gates and take back the texts.
That’s right, we’re taking them back.
They belong to us now.
Tonight, we’re going to raise up a number, a number of prophets.
And I know when prophets come around and you get baptisms, we’re going to start getting dirty.
So there’s a little bit of dirty material tonight.
Fair warning.
We are going to go to that place where we can get the wine of Sodom.
Tonight on Lady Babylon.
One. Some of you have come here thinking that Christ is the Messiah. It is not. The terms are
not equivalent. One is a late term and one is a term that was used for a millennia within mystery
religions. One is a term that was invented to mask for another term. One is an original. Tonight
we’re going to sort all that out, because remember, when it comes to the Christ, the Christ
is not the Messias. The Christ is not the Messias. The Christ is the Christos, and tonight you get
to see what the Christos is. I want to give you this video. We’re going to start out, and I’m
going to give this to you twice, once in the beginning, once in the end, specifically because
the images are meant to penetrate you are meant to be finding what is behind them chewy hit it
advise everybody to put their seats in the upright position and to buckle into your thronos may the
star guide you yeah let’s go let’s do it bring up that first you know what i’m going to do before
we bring up the text i’m going to call them out i want to introduce you guys to somebody you’ve
never met you could not have messed you you could not have met this person you could not have heard
of this person this person did not exist thanks to a cover-up a historical medieval cover-up
fantastic a linguistic crime scene from the 10th century fantastic let’s bring up our first text
for tonight please this is every welcome everybody welcome if you don’t mind for me right get
blow that up who is this this is ambakum wait what yeah this is ambakum who is that oh he’s
somebody that you’ll meet if you ever take a walk through the papyri graikai magikai yeah he’s a
prophet he’s a prophet what does he sing look at this first line proseo
oi days what is he doing he is a prophet with his oi days with his oi days bring me up this
definition of the oides there there we go right oi what is that oi day it’s from a oi day it’s
from a oi day in greek and if you just look just peruse up and down look look what you sing songs
and you sing look about five or six lines down starts out with id starts out with id
look at that word the first greek word we see in there iacos iacos iacos what are songs as this
tells you because the people who worked on the oxford and knew the alice of alice in wonderland
They understood that the Iachos is the song, is the song.
These are prophets, prophetes.
Every word I have given you is a native Greek word.
Ambakoum, Ambakoum, Ambakoum.
Now, Ambakoum had his, we’ll get to that.
Thank you, Chewie.
Ambacom had his identity stolen. Fortunately, his words weren’t. We have them as evidence
at this terrible linguistic crime scene. What is that Iakos? What is that Iakos? Pull that out.
Alice, what are you going to tell me about Iakos? Look, it’s the mystic name of Dionysus. Remember,
ladies and gents dionysus is found as early as the linear b fantastic fantastic right
whoa and look look at number just everybody take a take a little look at number two under a it’s a
song in honor homoesticos yacos yes that’s that song in honor of dionysus so somebody was asking
somebody else about what are the shouts i saw it on a i saw it on an interview i don’t remember what
show it was youtube right and i saw it and they didn’t know what the shouts were my goodness if
you don’t know look people come on i know you guys are all listening to these people right it’s not
you it’s me too but we’re all listening to these people you can’t take some of them serious because
they’re full of lies, full of lies. Whenever they get unprofessional and they start throwing around
their Harvard credentials, you got to know you’re about to get stuff full of lies. This episode is
brought to you by the folks who dislike Harvard and Yale for the fact that they have so let us
down. Yeah. You guys didn’t read Aretas, did you? He’s a Cappadocian, dude. You should have read
him fantastic let’s go back to the iachos see what we’ve got there um go down to oh here this
is the good part i get to give moses here right right this is the third century and it’s the first
time that we’ve heard of the guy but okay here we go moses moses i hear that you’re a snake loving
guy. I hear you, snake-loving guy. Moses, come forward. Bring him up. That fills me with chills
to do that. Bring it up. Let me just read this to you guys. I’m just going to stop, turn on my
translator, right, right, your, our, our ampelos, our vine, our grapevine is from the vine of Sodom,
yeah, our cultivated vine is grown from, by the Gomorrans, that’s a little bit fancy there,
try to get on the grape cluster right the grape cluster is a bunch of grapes filled with holy
holy oh it’s biting look at verse 3 33
what what is what is their wine what is their wine their wine is the
zumos draconton bring it back up it’s the zumos draconton the zumos is that inner desire
the zumos is that breast that heart if you will and that drive and our drive our drive is the
drive of the dragon our wine brings us the drive of the dragon look at look at the next line that
same, bring me that same text back, Chewie, fantastic, bring that one up, good, and what
does the next part of the verse say, and the drive, the drive of the asps, and then we get
one little word dropped right there at the end, Moses, and you gave it to us so kindly,
on iatos it’s from the alpha privative i plus ya oh to heal or ya oh my to heal to bring health
to apply drugs to bring health this is the drive that is the unhealable or untreatable
poison of the asp yeah what is take it down what is moses get his words off there what is moses
Moses telling us. What is Moses telling us? We’re in a world. We’re in a very strange world of
snake venoms. You mean that? You mean that substance that he’s talking about is the
in the wine and the wines are these wines of Sodom? Yes. Yes. Uh-huh. You have missed a whole
universe that was there. That was there. I’m going to take you even through the docks. Let’s keep
going moses thank you moses have a seat don’t grab that staff i’m not afraid i’m not afraid of
your staff fantastic where do you think you got that stuff anyway well they say he was the student
of museus or orpheus or they all they were all students of medea right there is a world there
is a paradise where she is queen yeah i can envision it bring us back number next source
Bring it up. We’re taking these Old Testament sources today.
We’re taking them. They belong to us, right?
Oh, okay. Yeah, I want the next Greek.
Bring me the next Greek source. We’ll come back to those.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. This is good enough.
And they gave, they put into the broma,
mu, they put into my food, hule, right?
That hule, excuse me.
That hule, kole, koleogagic.
right? What is a coliagogue? According to physicians, it’s that stuff that purges your
holy, right? What are they doing here? They put it into his food, and they did what? They
watered, they liquefied, they gave me liquid, right? They gave me the liquid for my thirst
that was oxos. It was oxos. They gave you the oxos? Where is this from? Did we just dig somebody
up this is from the psalms this is from the psalms from your bible right and it’s using the cult
terminology which of course it should be because these are songs these are songs and songs are
magic now you’re gonna not understand that you’re not gonna understand that world is not made up of
entertainers who sell their work and have it produced on a stage oh isn’t that intelligent
that’s not the world the stage is a religious place of purification we don’t have your stupid
entertainment that’s what we’re doing here right you have to give the anthropology its day yeah
you have to give the anthropology its day with these texts i’m telling you guys i’ve worked
with a lot of greek and roman texts work with a lot of them there is always a context a very
human context those words are not coming from fairyland good i’m sorry i’m a little bit angry
too much bad cop tonight too much bad cop bring us in uh here let’s go through some of these words
that we skipped over here yeah hit that one look at that can you bring that down from there and
blow it up fantastic toxic cost right we we’ve looked at this one once guys but i want you to
remind you this has to do with the bow has to do with the bow and the equipment right can be the
one skilled right right so you can talks about the tokstotatoi those guys who were skilled in
the bow and by guys i mean male and female right collectively the bowman right tok sotai tok sotai
The bowmen of the Scythians were bowwomen.
Isn’t that nice?
Love it.
Keep that up.
I need to see that some more.
Look at number two, though.
Toxicon pharmacon.
Now we’re swimming in our area where we’re comfortable, right?
A poison for smearing arrows with.
Equaling the Latin venenum.
You mean Venus and drugs are connected?
Yes.
Now you’re starting to get it.
Now you’re starting to get it, right?
Hit me with another one that’s toxic.
Look at this. Toxares. Toxares. Furnished with a bow.
Look at number two. This one also equals Toxicos. It also equals the same thing.
But look at the end of the line. Toxicos psalmos. Toxicos psalmos.
Wait. The twang of the bowstring. Psalms and songs and bowstrings are all connected.
they’re all connected in antiquity you’re dealing with the very same entity you’re dealing with the
titans you say what the language it makes sense the translation she doesn’t the titans those who
stretch heraclitus understood that the universe was held in the tension isn’t amazing that guy
was smoking the universe is held in tension it is that tension that brings you the seed
it’s that tension that brings you the seed start thinking like an ancient greek
start thinking like an ancient greek no yeah think like a pre-socratic yeah fantastic it is that
Tension that’s stretching that brings the seed or the semen. It’s that tension
Okay. Okay. I’m beginning to see Titans
Titans are those strainers
They are those powers
That maintain that tension Wow
Okay, starting to starting to see some things here starting to see them some things
okay the songs you don’t get songs without tension wait what you can’t produce a note
without some form of that plucky tension like a bow you hear the bow right let’s make some harps
and pluck let’s make some harps and pluck yeah okay so you can see where the mind is
your neur that caused you to have that satiriasis and for those of you didn’t sit on the satyrs
meeting you won’t get the right picture but for those of you who are standing there satyrs with
your priapus you have that tension because of that pharmacon because of that toxicon
pharmacon that bow poison gives you the tension brings the music oh i see okay if nothing else
these people are totally totally stoned right okay fine i get it bring us bring us into the text
you’re saying i want to know where i’m going right let me show you where we’re going
this is lovely and i thank you for your time tonight bring up that next text
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, let’s go to Job.
Let’s go to Job.
And right.
So we’ve got our we have our jugs of the wine of Sodom.
We have our jugs and we’re about to see what happens when you get these jugs, jugs of wine.
Right.
We kind of know because we saw the daughters.
We saw the daughters there.
Here, here are the here are the girls.
Right.
Let them do their thing.
Spare the gents.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
You know where we are.
you know where we are good bring up that verse again um yeah yeah what okay ready we’re not with
the people you think we’re with these ancient practitioners this these prof this prophet
prophetes yeah here we go and on the bay is if a person’s gifts ascend to the uranos yeah and is
the things that he burns in offering right if they’re taken up right within the clouds
within the clouds. Do you know what the clouds are? The clouds are in reference
to a cult ceremony. If I was given a paper, I’d be saying in Ritu. The clouds
are referring to the fumigations. The fumigations. The fumigations. Fantastic.
These are prayers. Don’t you remember when Abakum just came into the room? The
one you guys will probably hear called Habakkuk or Habakkuk if you’re an evangelical. Evangelical?
You ever been preached to by Habakkuk? Abakum can tell you that the first thing offered is that
prayer. Is that prayer. That prayer is that incense in the nostrils of Zeus. Yeah, those prayers go up.
they’re oftentimes pictured as um beautiful young diamonds yeah beautiful young demons
beautiful young demons good name for a rock group i think anyway let’s get back to it bring me up
some more greek let’s give them some more great because we got a picture going
yeah and you won’t be able listen you’re not going to be able to get any help
right? Because there’s this hoi aspidos in your gut. When you’re in the thick of it, in the right,
and you’re right there in the depth of it as the prophetes, as the prophet, you’re not going to be
able to just step out of it. You’ve got the poison on board. That’s why you need the theriac. If you
don’t have the theriac, you’re going to end up screaming about being thirsty on a cross, waiting
to die from the toxin let’s get back to it where’s that naked boy wait how long has it been i got
about 25 minutes this time before we got to the naked boy thanks for keeping track everyone um
by the way we’re gonna have neil come on here in just a minute but let me wrap this all together
this is all the bible i’ve been reading to you all of it yeah so you’re not going to be able to get
any help when this thing is inside you because it’s you’ve got the poison right that’s the ass
go to the next one chewie that’s the asp right but here’s the entire passage if you’re so bent
right on this evil that is under your tongue right right you’re gonna hide it you’re gonna
hide it there you’re gonna hide this poison right under your tongue something that hides poison
right under its tongue we are square with the serpents these dracontes right you can be proud
to the person who was commenting about the order of the dragon and vlad right vlad i i see your vlad
and i raised you maroulis yes and i say look at the hymns of maroulis the mercenary poet who
fought with vlad this is the impaler this isn’t the modern vlad of shame this is vlad the impaler
the member of the order of dragons yeah order the dragon baby yeah um look at marulus he has it in
his hymns very same cult very same cult yeah fantastic love that comment by the way um go
ahead yeah bring us up let’s see yeah so you’re gonna keep this thing in your mouth right you’re
You’re not going to, you’re never going to turn away from it.
You’re addicted to this stuff, right?
And you’re going to keep it there in the middle of your throat,
and nothing is going to help because that holy is in there.
And what is that holy?
That holy, keep going down.
Let’s go to the next one.
Whoops, I need to go down to here, I think.
Let’s check out.
No, let’s go back up to holy, please.
Where’s the holy?
Oh, there it is.
Yeah, there it is.
look at this, guys, take a look, take a look at number four, serpent’s venom, right, serpent’s
venom, and we get this reference to Job, we also get a reference in Apollodorus, notice, by the way,
at number three, LXX, of course, is a Septuagint, right, it’s a 70, right, and look at how bad
the Masoretes do things. Are you ready? Hebrew rush, a poisonous plant, variously called hemlock
and poppy. Okay, stop right there. That’s how you know the original is not Hebrew, right?
Variously translated as hemlock or poppy. Any ancient Roman or Greek would laugh at that. You
know the difference between hemlock and poppy is like incredible if you were some monk or you were
some dude who was in a religious order or if you were some dude who was part of an orthodox order
you know what you would do you wouldn’t know the difference and so you would throw them together
in some garbage translation that’s what you’re getting from the mazurites this text is not
hebrew it is a very specific greek and they couldn’t translate it right julius africanus
is going up to the guys working on the hebrew and he says to him he says what are you doing
and they you know this is greek you know what you’re doing is back translating this the hebrew
text doesn’t exist ask your scholars he says a question ask your hebrew scholars what this word
means just like a cup was one of the common trees says they don’t know future conversation they
don’t know right because they’re speaking greek hebrew has been dead for 400 years yeah and they
don’t have the vocabulary anymore why they didn’t write anything down they didn’t write anything
down wow and you mean you thought this text everything that i’m quoting to you tonight
you thought was hebrew look how screwed up your perception would be if you put either opium or
hemlock in that little thing boy it’s a good thing we’re not magicians or we’d be poisoning ourselves
fantastic okay let’s keep going let’s keep going let’s just keep drilling we’ve got a couple more
and we’re gonna jump jump to neil yeah go ahead uh the end of that translation the long one i
just want oh there’s another there’s a good one take down the bible so people can see this
oh yeah god totally bashed us right he ripped us a new one yeah and he forced us to drink the
holy he forced us to drink the holy because we we failed in just in front of him just in his
presence we failed we failed so what does he do he gives us the poison what does hercules do with
this stuff what does hercules do let’s keep going what does hercules do yeah oh look at it this is
somebody else look people where this is from we’re going now from the septuagint to the new testament
right hold on you bible scholars i know hold on i know you’re not used to this because you’re used
to bsing the world you’re used to lying watch this
what they do they gave him wine to drink with holy huh with holy and mixed in mixed in and
yeah some minutes when he tasted it
after he tasted it he didn’t want to drink it he didn’t want that wine of sodom he didn’t want that
He’s screaming, I’m thirsty, and in place for my thirst, they give me the oxos.
Now, thank goodness there’s a physician and a medieval Zoroastrian fruitcake magician
who tells us that the antidote, in his words,
the antidote for the dipsass viper is called oxos.
That’s what they call it.
So it makes sense.
So we’re seeing in the Psalms about druggies getting wasted on venom
so that a dude who is the Christos
can then later sit on a cross
and fulfill his mission as the Son of God.
Right, right out of the myth.
Right out of the cult.
Right out of the history.
Right out of the history.
Yeah, right out of the history.
Hit us with our last.
I think we’ve got one more here.
Boom.
Yeah, hit us with that first one.
Yeah.
I wanted you guys to see this.
I just want you to look at the last line.
Look at the EO Bolois.
Yeah.
Que las jalepas apopempe.
Send out.
What does Heracles do with his bows?
He dips them in the hole of the serpent, right?
He dips it.
He’s one of these guys who uses those poisons, right?
And here it is within the hymn.
This is not a document for us to, it’s not a musical.
It’s not some kind of entertainment.
it it’s a hymn meant to be sung during the performance of the mystery okay give me the
give me the next one there um and then finally we’re down to diascorides who’s a physician
and diascorides is going to tell us he’s going to tell us what we can do with the oak and
and the acorns that come from and the oak galls that he’s going to be talking about it
yeah he says they’re um uretic and they’re they treat kefalogia you know headaches and that they
can be consumed or they can be breathed in they can be breathed in now my two sigh now my two sigh
and we have some things that are helpful when someone is eating the eobola wait a minute when
someone’s eating what? Yeah, when someone’s eating that. Iobolos, right? What is that Iobolos?
Wait, it means shooting arrows, yeah? Shedding venom or venomous animals. Oh, I see. Look at
number two. Averroes, poisoned, and we get the Orphic Hymn to Heracles. Notice what’s poisoned.
The haima. The haima. That’s that poison essence. That’s that poisoned blood. Drink my blood. When
Lady Babylon gives us the cup, right? When Lady Babylon gives us the cup, we are drinking that
fatal blood that will put us into death so that she can resurrect us. That’s the mystery of
1,200 years before Jesus is ever using the word Christ. It is not a Greek. It is not a Hebrew
word. It is a native pre-Hebrew Greek concept. Think about that just for one minute. What I’m
laying down tonight, Christos is pre-Hebrew cult Greek. Pre-Hebrew cult Greek. It is the state
of an oracular child of God. The oistromania is the state of the prophet. That is the Christos.
That is the Christos.
Okay, okay, let’s look.
There’s one more.
Did I have one more thing?
Yeah, I had one more little thing.
I just want you to see this little polidorus,
just so you don’t think I’m BSing you.
The last word in that first line is the word that’s used to baptize, right?
This is just to dye or to cover with a liquid or a gel or a cream to cover something.
Okay, so tei cholei tus oistus ebafsin.
What did he do? He’s covered his arrows. He baptizes arrows. Tei chole, in the chole. That’s what he does. That’s part. Look at the anthropology. Again, second line, eis tei cholein anabapte. He, he, apibapte, excuse me. He’s doing the same thing. He’s dipping his aki, whoops, his, you know, akitis akidas. There it is. He’s dipping his projectiles, right? Akitis.
akit, yeah, right, akitidos, that’s a projectile, project, something with a point, comes, comes from
the root for point, yeah, he’s dipping them, and what, in that hole, again, right, it’s a very
specific use of a very specific drug from antiquity, and it is a cult drug, so when we find
out the serpent has so many heads kephala and we’re talking about revelation or apocalypse
we’re talking about that dragon with the heads realize realize what we’re talking about we’re
talking within cult about the communion fantastic fantastic no problem it’s not a flying dragon
i’m sorry to disappoint you but jr tolkien is full of it right he’s it’s just kind of
it’s kind of mythic masturbation with just a hint of norse doo-doo right no offense to the
stuff is great right but wow we’re talking history people we’re talking history lastly
there is a word in greek that is the greek representation now is the greek representation
of what um you would call messiah and that word is messias right there was a greek word for it
yeah what happens when you make a greek word for a hebrew word and then claim that another greek
word is that same Hebrew word. You’re only doing that because you have to fake it. You’re doing
that because you have to fake it because you can’t explain it. Christ is not messias. They are not
equivalents. We have just been reading the text of a bunch of drug-using cultists, those who
founded your society and your philosophy and everything about the tiny religions that sprang
off as a result all right judaism christianity islam are the offspring of this religion yeah
yeah so we’re gonna start looking at these texts and we’re gonna find every place where our greek
where our pagan religion has been washed and whitewashed and sanitized so that you get a
version of something that doesn’t exist. I’m going to show you the real religion. I’m going to bring
you to that Onokentauron, that bonky phallus centaur who’s going to teach you about the drugs.
Yeah, fantastic. Thank you for your time. I want to bring Neil on now. I’m sorry to short you,
Neil, 10 minutes, and I want to have a little back and forth, maybe an interview. Neil, say hello.
it’s good to see you thanks for having me on i can if i if i can just um bring up a few things
in what you said because i couldn’t agree more and you that was amazing well said well said
the when we look at genesis first of all there’s no one citing this text before the ptolemaic times
before alexandria you never there’s no one in persia no one in babylon no one in greece no one
in egypt ever mentioning abraham or moses or the genesis story you only start hearing some people
citing this text after the fourth century bce and it’s it’s it’s like what what’s going on here well
if you look at the if you look at the uh the court of ptolemy soter and his son it’s demetrius
filarion who comes from athens he’s a successor of all the socratic thinkers he’s the successor
of plato and aristotle he’s bringing down all that knowledge to alexandria you’ve got berosis
the chaldean coming over here manetho he who’s citing hecateus of abdera where you get your
first moses story and then you have kalamakis the hymn writer who is using baki chants like
hallelujah and amen for pagan gods but not for yahweh or anything so all of a sudden you’re
looking at this court of alexandria like oh i see what’s going on here they’re putting together like
a steroid a religion on steroids right now that’s what’s happening and so from from the greek
perspective it’s all native it’s all flu and make it’s like it all flows you get terms like
dacedomania which means the religious feeling that bacchic revelry feeling which gets translated
into the fear of god it means you have to fear god and be afraid of him that’s not what it means
it means it does yeah it means fearing god but it means the religious frenzy fearing of god it’s
the religious feeling it’s that bacchic mania and so when it gets when it gets translated from greek
and hebrew and then into english or then in the latin and then into english i should say you lose
all the context we have no idea what these people were talking about when you go back and so the the
the greek side is where it gets crazy now if i can one last thing i want to do i i heard what
you said about the christos thing and the oystermania thing and i pulled out some sources
if anyone wants to see this is from ascalis prometheus bound so i’m going to share three
screens real quick and then and then that’s it then i’m done the first one i want to show
the greek so here it is right here this is the greek you notice how this is from prometheus
bound aeschylus uh 566 right it has their you’ve got your chance in the beginning yeah oh ah ah
there is here’s your first word kriya kriya and then there’s your oysteros so i’m going to click
on this word right here right this is their kriya now what does this mean i’ll check this out this
is going to blow your mind here’s the real here’s the real origins of what a christ is okay krio i
clicked on that word here’s what it gave me creo korea now we click on the lsj rub anoint all that
stuff it’s the anointed right but what’s this one down here with the gadfly that’s odd well turns
out if we go back to aeschylus this is where it comes from so i’m going to share them this is the
last screen i’m going to and then i’ll show the translation actually so the uh if we go back to
the greek text you see this word oistros krio tis ah may tan tali uh ta talinan oistros we click on
this oistros and what do we get well let’s let’s uh let’s switch my screen over to that word right
now i’ll show you what i’m got what i got here oistros the gadfly so what is this korea gadfly
phrase happening what’s happening here well let’s do it let’s see let’s go to the english
translation just to speed this up a little bit because we could translate it ourselves which
we normally do but just for the sake of time let’s just see what uh let’s just see what alice has is
for the translation real quick i’m gonna go to the text back to the text uh reveal what this all
means and you get oh ah a gadfly phantom of the earthborn argus is stinging me again to be stung
by the gadfly is the creole and this is the first time you see this show up where there’s a christos
or a creole in any text it’s a it’s a title and in this case prometheus is being is is being stung by
the gadfly he’s becoming a christos there it is i mean we’re just pulling out sources here this is
not our theories or what we think happened this is the source so i just wanted to bring that up
notice notice neil that it’s that gadfly sting that brings that madness or what they called the
oyster mania if you just take that oysters and you look up oyster mania it’ll tell you this is
the state that you enter when you’re prophesying under the influence of the oysters they said the
mania then that mania has that that term has to be in there right it’s for profits it’s for the
prophets it’s what they used we have a reference in diodorus to the christasa the the self-christing
of medea right so when she enters that frenzy in order to do her thing it’s not it’s not odd to us
that somebody was claiming a title of the one who is christed it’s not it’s not odd at all to us
And it just makes great, great sense that he’s in the shape that he is,
screaming about his being thirsty and whatnot.
It’s the same presentation of symptoms.
So, yeah, I wanted you, I wanted people tonight, Neal,
what did you think about reaching back into Abakum?
We, you know, he does talk about the Soter, you know, Abakum or Habakkuk.
He talks about the Soter, and he talks about the salvation, and we skipped over it, but he talks about the one who is that bringer, that great, it’s the first one.
Chewy, bring that up real quick.
I need to show people.
He is the one, look at that paragraph, that second paragraph there, Ryan.
Look at that first verb, orgistes.
This is what Kourios is doing.
he’s entering that orgy in the rivers he’s entering that that extreme satiric phase that
when your satyrian is kicked in and you’re standing there with your erection his thumos is in the
waters right his what is that word that’s we hormones from that right his impulse his sexual
drive is in that sea why do you think that that where do you think that power reproduction comes
from right and what’s funny is the next line says right this is all from your what you call the old
testament he says he gets up on his horses and his horsemanship is his salvation stop if that’s
not a reference, if that’s not a reference to the oyster maniac horse culture that is the
kind of Black Sea Scythian culture, and there’s one group in it, right? But the group that produces
that says, hey, we’re going to change our identity, those Aryans, and they change their identity to
Medes. This is that same horse culture that’s spreading these drugs. And it is working in
concert in the text with the purple trade as well so we’ve got some we’ve got some things to start
looking at if we can what do you think neil about i mean this is an old testament prophet what is
how does all that strike you you mentioned because you mentioned how there was a paradise and medea
was the queen and we can put it together through the primary sources you can too because you you
get medea’s venerated down in egypt she’s been rated over in italy she’s venerated and then you
got the medes herodotus says that the medes own account of themselves that they used to be called
arians until medea came and they changed their name to the medes because of her that’s like
there’s a lot there’s a lot of sources to show that this stuff there’s historical layers happening
here it’s not just fairy tale like this this is some real bronze age history that’s being baked
into these into these texts maybe that’s how they tell the stories i don’t know what’s going on here
but like there’s so there’s a layer of truth to this stuff there’s a there’s an empire the mind
you and i have talked a little bit about this there’s an empire the mind and i don’t know which
one of us first came up with the idea may have been you and i just called it the empire of the
mind but there is a spread of a mental culture from from some people would say all the way from
from India to the edge of Europe, right, with the oracles up in Brittany.
Some people would say it goes all the way that far.
When Pindar trots out his Oracle of Medea and says that she was sitting on Thera, the island,
as if she is governing the Mediterranean, she is telling people where their future generations will colonize.
Isn’t that weird?
she’s telling you in so many generations your descendant remind them we’ll go should go off
to north africa build a city called x worship worship their someone they were saying that the
um the people that were living the masagatai which is probably another way to say magog or
like the eastern scythians gog magog or masagatai whatever there’s probably different there’s
a hundred different words to say it but in this particular story cyrus is trying to go in there
and say hey let us marry your let me marry your queen which he already has a bunch of other queens
that he’s married to for political reasons so he can have their land basically so he can take their
territory use it as a trading port whatever and this queen was like hip to it she’s like nah we
have no queen but medea so they she ended up going to war with cyrus and she beat him the jewish
messiah cyrus the only person in the whole old testament who gets called my messiah finds his end
from a queen in the middle of nowhere who has no wealth no no power and he he goes out in there
i think he’s just going to conquer everything and she she ends up with his head in in her hand saying
and then she takes his head this is what she does as a truce this is this is in herodotus
she takes his head puts it in a vase of blood and then says now you’ll never have to thirst
for blood ever again whoa that’s and she said we have no queen but medea get out of my land
like that’s some like that’s badass this is who we’re talking about we’re talking about the world
that no one ever talks about but there’s people there and they were they were brilliant people
too you know very good had very high culture and everything you know yeah lady babylon it’s
something it’s something of history that we just uh it’s better covered up it makes us feel better
uh now that we’re part of these offshoots judaism christianity islam makes us feel better to kind of
mop this up i was jarring somebody’s mind the other day tell me what you think about this neil
with the whole pirate thing the lace days right with that second century pirate queen
um yeah the second century pirate queen from across the um across the sea there to uh on the
east side of italy um yeah and she’s uh tuta and she goes to war with the romans she’s like screw
you i don’t want your you know you’re not going to come over here and tell me what to do i’m the
pirate queen well they build a huge army like the biggest thing at that point went over there and
you know and conquered but people don’t see that they’re behind the oracles is a is a whole system
of power that is being exercised in antiquity and if you don’t understand what a pirate queen
is if you don’t understand how you could take somebody you could trade children you could trade
drugs and you could promote the religion that drives your society then you don’t understand
how the bronze age is put together right i mean it’s just uh it’s amazing i i hope people can see
i hope people can see the big picture neil was there anything else that stuck out tonight that
you want just to comment on yeah last thing i was going to say is um what you see what you’re
seeing happening in the final centuries leading up to the common era the time of jesus uh you’re
seeing a bunch of nerds basically getting together and saying well we have this uh we have this this
empire you know whether it’s the macedonians or romans doesn’t matter because they’re both doing
the same thing they’re both they’re trying to create this universal package of religion
wherein the bronze age had an understanding or not even just the bronze age you know the uh the age
leading up you know the iron age leading up to alexander’s time all that but like they had an
understanding that wherever you went location wise if you were in cyprus you honored aphrodite
if you were in um i don’t know athens you honored athena and you had this regional thing happening
everything was the there was a balance there then as soon as you started getting all these
nerds getting together trying to create these universal religions like christianity and judaism
and islam it just seems like everything falls out of order so there’s more chaos from this
it just seems like the the it’s a failure to try that you gotta you gotta let people have their own
culture and and and uh it just seemed to work better that way it makes you think that maybe
when they talk about civilization you know and the value maybe it was something that they saw
that they were building there’s a freedom in having libraries for example there’s a freedom
in having all sorts of temples where all sorts of religious practices can happen right the drive to
make it the one i mean couldn’t you put neil jesus and his apostles in that group of nerds that
you’re talking about yeah so the drive to make it that one exclusive group tends to be explosive
naturally explosive yeah love it love it i wish that we can reclaim in our in our searches i hope
that we can reclaim what that christos really was if we did we could probably understand a lot better
who jesus was why he was doing what he was doing and why most importantly he was arrested in a
public park at 4am with a naked kid yeah yeah absolutely neil i’ll give you the last word
thanks for coming tonight all right i’ll take the last word the last thing young one of the last
things young says carl jung in his famous red book he says you need to recognize the multiplicity of
the gods you cannot unite them into one being i was thinking about that you gotta let you know
let there be a diverse culture you’re not just gonna ma or unify them into one thing that you
want let let let there be separations let there be diversity you know look at the man pulling out
pulling out the great cursed red book of carl jung i love it where else can you guys get this
neil thanks for coming and i do just want to say by the way that neil’s working on more videos
and i have to say the last one that i saw i was quite impressed with neil i mean you’re rolling
out blockbusters one after another and i hope i hope that yours is yours is coming soon too
i’m almost i’m i’m can you tell the group a little just a minute about what it’s about
we’re working on a video he did the audio and i’m doing the videos and editing and it’s about media
so we’ll premiere it sometime we’ll get it out there sometime next week within this week yeah
and it’s an honor to have been able to to been able to work with you on that and i hope that
we can bring bring lady babylon as forward as crisp as possible you know what i mean
chewy says thanks and thanks to everybody for all the great positive comments that she’s given
and uh you didn’t know chewy was a female did you right it’s a secret i knew i knew that
okay the audience didn’t know yeah now something’s been revealed right okay fantastic now it makes
sense doesn’t it no anyway um thank you for coming tonight guys and thank you for
continuing to be a great audience and uh hail satan

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